when I do take the ocasional load down to milwakee, the most I do in the trailer is sweep it out before its loaded and after its unloaded. get paid for both and thats all since most of the freight is no touch.
***the Lumper Scam***
Discussion in 'Shippers & Receivers - Good or Bad' started by starstress, Dec 8, 2006.
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Most of the lumpers won't give real name let alone a ss# or tax#.
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If a place charges a lumper fee, the company pays it with a Comcheck. The lumper's EID or SSN is required. If the lumper will not provide either, or will not accept Comcheck, we take the load to the nearest terminal until they decide to provide the number and accept Comcheck. We do not pay cash for lumpers, and drivers are not required to unload freight.
Personally, I am of the opinion that lumpers and the people who run the warehouses that employ them in that whole racket of charging a fee to get their stuff off your truck are human dungheaps. -
Thats the reason i like a flat bed i never seen a lumper in a pipe yard.
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You got that right!
Once on a load of onions I had to pay a lumper to restack the pallets (no fault of mine). The shipper paid up too. -
Does anyone know the history of how this scam (lumper fee's) got started anyway?
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Most of the lumpers I have dealt with are good people just trying to make a living. And the majority of the time they make 1/4 of what you get charged. For example, if I only have 4 pallets to unload, no restacking, it would be $45, $25 goes to the company running the warehouse food lion for example, the other $20 goes to the lumper who gets charged $15 by his company for the right to unload that trailer.
But all of our lumper fees go right back to the shipper, so if things get too pricey its between the shipper and receiver.
When I am picking up a live load that isnt refer I kick on the refer to 30, mentally I feel like they will want to keep coming back in faster when its 90 outside and 50 in the trailer. -
Hmm...
That's one make to make them do it faster. -
You guys lose lumper money out of your checks? I used to run accounting, log books, trip sheets etc. for a moving company. There's no reason, except for being a [jerk] ,to take it from your check. Accounting should not complain if your sheets are filled out(ssn name sig-anyone around ), and not obviously fakes(IP Freely Amanda hugenkiss, etc)
Just FYI
we charged 15/hr or 10/hundred wgt-whichever was higher.
General lumper rate bout 15/hr(non weekend) so maybe 50-100 can be worth it.
I noticed the trucking companies here(rockford,iL) start at 16 for in house unloaders, so it's probably higher around the country.
As far as office politics, yes, but it's more with the effeminate managers who wear panties.
I remember a worker complaining that rather than giving him an assignment he made him sit in the office for 2 hrs. Then to punish him for asking why-didn't work him for 7 days. And this was one of the 4(of 20)guys that would call to see if there's work every day, wasn't drunk, but possibly got high after a job, I was glad mr panties had no brain. And those guys made at most 7.50/hr(KY minimum wage was 5.15)less if they were black. Yes I understand how people can get so angry during their jobs. The woman I replaced was promised 2 undelivered raises, then wasn't fired, and they got angry she walked out an hr after a new job opportunity arose.
This was about the time I decided I'd rather be on the trucking side-I'd rather make 50k than 20k, but I left that company soon after, and wish them nothing but failure.
IMO ownership, if it's not going to attempt to maximize revenue via simple things like-buying a new truck every 15 yrs, or adding self-storage units, lead to most of the problems. Workers don't get paid enough to stay, managers can't make enough to feel "important" to the community, and customers get unmotivated customer service. -
I don't know how the younger newbies do it but I always made it a rule never to lie to anyone. It is hard sometimes to stay on the straight and narrow but it will be worth it in the long run. You get a reputation in trucking by the dispatchers and everyone that comes to know you. Always play it straight. Then if you have a question of who is telling the truth the dispatchers know you and know you don't lie.
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