The "REAL" waiting times.

Some times log books sound like a pain in the ###..

 

We're good. I agree that that's what the rules say. What Ronin and I are saying is that you've got the rules and all the compliance BS on one hand and, on the other, you've got the real world. You do what you do and you log it as you have to log it. I logged unpaid dock time to conserve hours for the money line.

The rules also say that any paid work you do in addition to trucking is on-duty. So, say you take a vacation at home and help your neighbor put on a new roof. If he pays you, technically, you were on duty. If his girlfriend pays you , you weren't on duty. You still got tired slapping shingles on a hot roof in August. No matter how a guy got paid for the roofing, he'd be a fool to log it at all.

"The rules don't regulate what you do in the sleeper." Not yet, anyway.

 

They are, at times. You can also use them to turn down burn-out loads if you don't have hours. Each driver finds his own way.

 

I drive a local route and was once told to make delivery to a customer asap. They had a line down and were charging the company $250.00/hr for the delay. It's funny how that happens when the truck makes the customer wait.

 

I'll reiterate what I said earlier.

If the driver keep logging waiting time at shipper on line 2, then don't bother asking for detention pay nor can your company put pressure on this shipper to become more efficient at loading. Since you declared that you released yourself out of duty for that period.

I am a Flatbed driver, I log 95% of my time at shipper/consignee on-duty for 2 reasons.

1. It shows how long it took me to load and unload.
2. If I have an accident down the road, the only lie on my log is to put myself too much time on-duty.

I usually do finish the week with something close to 2500mi and get home for 34hrs between the 60th and 70th ( Friday or Saturday ).

It work for me not to cheat , so why would I cheat , but again my company has committed to safety and regulations and you can clearly see it in the way they book and dispatch loads.

Others companies clearly have no clue how to run legal. At some point, They will need to change their way of "running" to keep their "authorities".

Finally, Yes, The black invisible helicopters that check to see if you are sleeping are there but you only remember them when you are in a court defending a "manslaughter" case against you.

Remember, Lawyers would have no problem convincing a Jury that you were supposed to be on-duty and that you LIED on your logbook, either EOBR or paper. ( Shipper's security cameras, logging of time of entry, time of loading, ECM data, etc.. all those could be used against you )

Me, I am not spending the rest of my life in Jail because I wanted to earn a couple more pennies per week but again, that's just me.

 

There is no correlation between being detained at the shipper and being in the sleeper. There is no justifiable reason to deny payment of detention just because a driver may have spent the majority of that time in the sleeper.