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  1. ducnut

    ducnut Road Train Member

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    Hand-ratchets are worthless, especially on angle, over distance. The more working angle, the less effective. Same with chains. Those containers aren’t properly secured.
     
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  3. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    Stating your opinion is fine
    I don't agree with your conclusion tho.
    It fits the regs the way it's secured.
     
  4. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

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    Please provide a reference to the regulations you’re citing.
     
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  5. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Don't the regs on container securement require cross-securement on the front and back? Been awhile since I've dug through them...
     
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  6. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    FMCSA requires that cargo securement systems be capable of withstanding the forces associated with following three deceleration/accelerations, applied separately:

    1. 0.8 g deceleration in the forward direction;
    2. 0.5 g acceleration in the rearward direction; and
    3. 0.5 g acceleration in a lateral direction.
    These values were chosen based on researchers' analysis of studies concerning commercial motor vehicle
     
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  8. CAXPT

    CAXPT Road Train Member

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    Gladly. I couldn't get it to post properly on the first go of this response. So please don't post your opinion with obfuscated references to regs. General regs, if you read them, are always superceded by commodity-specific cargo securement instructions, and in this case, it does.

    (c) Securement of loaded intermodal containers transported on vehicles other than container chassis vehicle(s).
    (1) All lower corners of the intermodal container must rest upon the vehicle, or the corners must be supported by a structure capable of bearing the weight of the container and that support structure must be independently secured to the motor vehicle.
    (2) Each container must be secured to the vehicle by:
    (i) Chains, wire ropes or integral devices which are fixed to all lower corners; or
    (ii) Crossed chains which are fixed to all upper corners; and,
    (3) The front and rear of the container must be secured independently. Each chain, wire rope, or integral locking device must be attached to the container in a manner that prevents it from being unintentionally unfastened while the vehicle is in transit.

    - emphasis added.

    Notice, that 2, as the picture shows, is optional top or bottom, however, 3 is not, that usually is where 1 chain each goes across the front and back through the lower front and back holes to secure the base down to the trailer itself at the corners.
    Additionally, the 2. actually refers to cross chains in the front ahd back of the container, not the side. I wish I could find the picture showing the right way that regulation shows, but I can't find it at the moment, but it still shows that it is NOT loaded properly.
     
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  9. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    Other than your condescending attitude.
    How, specifically, does that NOT conform to those rules?
    The way that reads straps are not legal, Is that what you are referring to?
     
  10. kylefitzy

    kylefitzy Road Train Member

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    Yes chains are required if you’re going to use the top corners to secure a container. This is one of the only spots in the regulations the FM CSA makes a determination between chains straps and cables. Despite what most people say straps on coils are perfectly legal.

    With the way those straps are angled and run straight down to the trailer I would bet you could push that container two foot off the side of that trailer before you met any real resistance.
     
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  11. kylefitzy

    kylefitzy Road Train Member

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    I’ve never had one move with cross chains front and back and horseshoe chains around the bottom. Some of the other guys don’t wanna climb up and put the chains on top and just do the horseshoes and straps over the top. While that’s legal A few of them Have had containers move
    , mine never have. 86F495BD-675D-4E63-B904-28AAE8D106CE.jpeg 4A664C9A-AECE-466E-89EC-A5369C18EA01.jpeg F9C04241-5B88-4DB3-8C9E-F14FA116A53D.jpeg
     
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