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  1. Todd727

    Todd727 Medium Load Member

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    If you are reading what I highlighted, that is from the previous section for carrying coils with the eyes facing up, i.e. the coils laying flat.

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  3. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    I believe it's important to conceptualize what the tiedown regs are trying to accomplish. The goal isn't to have the securement absorbing the forces trying to move the freight. The goal is to have the freight and the trailer become a single unit where the frictional forces prevent movement and the securement is only increasing that force and restricting any rotational movement due to high cg. That isn't possible with all freight, of course, wheeled and tracked vehicles the obvious example.
    But the principle is still somewhat valid, even there. Think of the difference in stability of an 'A' pull vs. a 'V' pull. The A pull is more stable because it anchors the vehicle in place in relation to the deck, whereas a V pull allows rocking, even though the wheels don't move. The A pull actually fixes the vehicle as part of the mechanical structure as it doesn't allow the movement of the anchor points in relation to the deck that a V pull does.

    I realize this is off in the weeds for many, but I'm a firm believer that understanding why things are done a certain way will make one a far better hand than blindly following what the rules say without a clue about the reasoning.

    And just to be clear, this wasn't a critique of your post @Espressolane ,merely an expansion.
     
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  4. IH9300SBA

    IH9300SBA Road Train Member

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    If you're using ratchet binders on the X chains, I always placed the binder on the chain as tight as I could and then backed it up one link. Once you do that you can slide in your corner protectors and they will be snug and you can start ratcheting without any further adjustment and no tarp straps are in your way.
     
  5. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

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    It’s ok to offer constructive critique, always willing to learn.

    On this we are in agreement. Funny you should mention the A and V tie. Often use that exact terminology when trying to help one of the other drivers with load securement. While I do have a few issues with the regulations for a few items, like cross (X) chains on some things(containers e.g.). They do offer a starting point and some basic standards, and have the required minimum for a reason. This is the building block to work from. That is an important key. If you have a solid baseline, you can expand and extend the concepts. Hopefully as one starts out, they get training from someone that does understand the concepts and can pass them along in a meaningful way.
     
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  6. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    Personally I think this is the wrong way to chain a coil.
    Is this V or A.
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    This 1 covers all the bases although I think the chains should be hooked to the pockets AND the spools to distribute the forces to 2 separate points.

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  7. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    That's a vee.
     
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  8. jamespmack

    jamespmack Road Train Member

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    I personally agree. But we have to look at what he is working with. I don't know him, but it's a wood floor steel drop deck. No chain pull ups. I feel he did well with his equipment. I would not haul coils on that trailer. But there is no reg on that.

    I will say a mill that I haul for put out notice "No Step Decks" recently.
     
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  9. jamespmack

    jamespmack Road Train Member

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    Sometimes what is right, isn't legal too. Every load is a new load.
     
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  10. REALITY098765

    REALITY098765 Road Train Member

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    Why not a step?

    That was just a picture I used, not picking on anyone in particular
    But if I was critiquing the securement, there are a few things I would have issues with.
     
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  11. jamespmack

    jamespmack Road Train Member

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    They had one break loading it. So all facilities are no longer allowed to load steps. But that all I know.
     
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