the unnecessary usage of j-brakes, why????

The only time you need to use engine retarder (jake brake) is on a steep downhill descent.

Only dumazzes use them in the city,or on flat stretches.

 

I don't like the straight pipes on a bike, they're entirely too loud, but the baffled ones don't bother me. I've almost pulled out in front of a bike that I didn't see more than once and only stopped because I heard the exhaust. If that bike that ran up next to my drive axles in Cincinnati wasn't muffled to be silent, I'd have known he was there when we got to the sharp curve that I had to take his lane to make. Granted that guy was a moron and even his friend who hung back on the other bike was giving him crap about it at the next light.

 

Well I use mine only when i need it or to tick off a small oklahoma town at 0200..lol.. Back when i was hauling logs i never once turn off the Jake but then again i was never under 160k loaded either..

 

I use the engine brake (not break) all the time. With a DPF it is very quiet. A diesel does not compression brake like a gas fired engine, so having the switchable engine braking system is very handy as you can change the amount of engine braking as needed.

And the last thing I need from a flatlander is telling me how to drive the mountains. A engine brake is "free" while the service brake is not. I can add many miles to a set of brake shoes because of driving the way I do.

Now if they would add on a brake saver as well.

 

How 'bout this for a novel idea;...... Make it a law that trucks have to have mufflers on the exhaust then no one will have a reason to complain about a truck using their jakes whether they are really needed or not.

Like I said before, my truck has a muffled exhaust and and when I use my jake, nobody knows about it unless of course your riding in the truck and the radio is turned down.... Problem solved.

 

I believe Colorado already does that. Check out the signs next time you're there - they say something to the effect of "Use of unmuffled engine brakes prohibited"

 

You're right, they certainly do, along a few more states. Sorry for not being more clear, but my post was more aimed at suggesting that ALL states adopt that law instead of Colorado and a few others that don't care if you use compression brakes just as long as they're muffled.

 

I agree somewhat. I use them on short exits, emergency situations, and a few others. Normally off. No good for fuel mileage. If you know where you're going to stop you can coast right up to it. Too many rely on them too much instead of learning to drive correctly.

 

as Ive stated before, I use mine pretty much all the time and my truck still gets anywhere from 6.8 to 7.8 miles per gallon so how can it affect mileage?

Explan to me how you say one doesnt know how to drive correctly if you witness them using their jake to maintain control rather than friction brakes that can heat up rather quickly then fade away to nothing and stop yielding any stopping force at all? Not trying to start an argument, just striclty curious as to how you mean with that statement.