Theory of Profitability

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by snafu.driver, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. snafu.driver

    snafu.driver Bobtail Member

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    I understand that there are infinite amount of factors that affect an O/O's profit but I can't help but to ponder one...

    If you read my other thread, you'd know that I'm going through the selection process of figuring out what truck to buy. And in doing so, I've decided to buy used and keep my budget in the $40-50k range. As much as I would love to buy one low and long, chromed out Pete or Kenworth I tear myself away because I know pretty doesn't create profit.

    Companies like TMC buy brand spankin new top of the line Pete's with add on's like super singles, platinum interiors, VORAD systems etc...and they still churn a profit. Granted they have a ton of trucks on the road, but if you break it down, the salary the driver makes is in a sense profit that truck has made (on an extremely simplistic level of thinking here).

    Companies buy new constantly (otherwise there would never be used trucks).

    So I have to ask...Can you still churn a profit driving and paying for a $120,000 dollar truck?

    S.N.A.F.U.
     
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  3. stranger

    stranger Road Train Member

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    Can you live on 10k per year if that is what your truck makes in profit? Probably not. If you have 5000 trucks that make 10k per year each, then the smaller profit per truck is easier to live with.
     
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  4. REDD

    REDD The Legend

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    But what your failing to realize is that the more you buy at one time, the cheaper the price is.

    Many large fleets buy 1000 trucks of one make at a time. Buy doing this, they get a premium discount. I'm guessing that fleets like Swift is only paying 50 or 60k for one truck. Then they either lease it to a driver for 89K or they run the dog piss out of it & sell it for 40 to 50k.

    So in reality, that truck didn't cost them nothing but profit.
     
  5. HEAVY DUDE

    HEAVY DUDE Road Train Member

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    Yes it can be done, but as a new O/O PROBABLY NOT. Many people spend more than 120k on a new truck.
     
  6. canuck in da truck

    canuck in da truck Road Train Member

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    a lot of the major companies dont even buy the trucks,they are leased and then released on the lop plan
    now if you have a good contract and a good team you could make money on that truck
     
  7. Dryver

    Dryver Road Train Member

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    In theory your expense escrow will be lower per mile with a new truck, so that would offset some of the higher purchase price. But why pay the depreciation on a new truck just to have that new truck smell. Stick with the 40-50K plan with a good maintenance account and make more money. If you insist giving money away I will forward my address.
     
  8. Andy Williby

    Andy Williby Bobtail Member

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    Sure you can turn a profit with a $120,000 truck.

    Now if you have to rent the $120,000, that is a different story, you will then have to support the capitalist who has the cash by giving him some or most of your profit, while he cashes your check and you do all the work.
     
  9. BJnobear

    BJnobear Heavy Load Member

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    But...But...It smells SOOOO GOOD!!!:biggrin_25523:
     
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  10. jdrentzjr

    jdrentzjr Road Train Member

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    All the "BIG" trucking companies started small. Just like any current one man independent operation. The difference? At some point the current "BIG" company owner made a deciesion to expand.

    They started with used equipment. Just like most one man operations. They paid it off and continued to operate it for another year or two putting the money once used for the payment into savings. Then when they upgraded the equipment there was a bigger chunch of $$$ to apply to the down payment on the next used truck. The shorter pay off time creates the opportunity to save more money over the life of the second used truck. Then when it's time for the third upgrade they were able to pay a sizeable amount as a down payment; if not pay for the new equipment in total. Now instead of having a truck payment you have profit that can be invested for even quicker growth, and it gave them the ability to purchase new from then on. Just like any current o/o can do.

    You must learn to walk before you can run. And NO!, you cannot start at the top. Climb the ladder!

    PET PEEVE: people who complain about companies making a profit. Just remember, your employers profits supplies you with a job.
     
  11. Old Man

    Old Man Road Train Member

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    Did you no know brokers pay more if you have more chrome.
     
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