I run more "regional" than anything. Typical runs are 700-800+ miles.
You can't' control what a consignee or a shipper will do. All you can do is prepare your logbook the best you can for them. If that means setting it up for 8/2 splits, then run them. And they will suck after a bit.
As to Ethan,
No doubt he is good at what he does. My comment was not specifically directed to him. It is a blanket statement to anyone that slacks off at work. As an employer, it pissed me off to high heaven to see it happen. And I did simply walk up to one of my employees and tell him to punch out and leave. I'd mail him his check. Don't bother coming back. It's as much theft of the employer as it is from the other employees.
You want a honest days pay, put in a honest days work.
As drivers, we don't have the "luxury" of having a boss standing over our shoulders watching what we do and how. All they see is the occasional load being delivered, either on time or not. That's about the only "performance" measurement that a person has some times. Fuel mileage fluctuating so wildly based on load weights, speeds and locations. With more rural with lots of stop and go driving being harder on it that straight out interstate running.
A good portion of my running this week was on 2 lane main highways. And I still managed to pull a 6.1 mpg average running 66 mph on a truck that's history is 5.9 mpg.
There is money to be made with 9+ mpg trucks
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Sounds like my math didnt really register with most of you. If you start your career with mega carriers beating into you that "going slower saves fuel", then you may forget about the benefits of delivering more freight.
I get paid for miles traveled not days on the road so I want to run as fast as I can. I do regional all the time (Phoenix to El Paso tomorrow) the advantage to running faster doing regional is obvious, more time at home instead of my sleeper. The downside to running faster is you spend more money but I already did that math.MNdriver and DodgeFarmBoy Thank this. -
preaching to this choir guntoter. I have done that math a couple times and it comes out where running the speed limit just pays more than worrying about 58 or 62.
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When you are running 1400 miles plus in one direction before you bump a dock, 62 MPH does not work. I Round trip to Florida and back from da UP of Michigan every week. Plus a little extra Dead head miles. I ave. when all is said and done each week, 3500 miles. I Could not do that with these Mega Co.s the Time lost in speed would kill my rest time.
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And honestly what added maintenance/breakage is there running 70 vs 62??
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More profit per mile is equal to fewer days on the road.
More profit per mile is better to make the same amount of money running 2 loads than it does running faster to make the same amount of money running 3 or even 4 loads that not only takes alot more miles and days, but alot more maintainence cost to make the same amount of profit.
I have done it the fast way for many years and now that I am making more driving slower, running fewer loads I am finding the only critics of making more running slow are the guys who have never tried it. -
Simple.
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The last quarter of 2011 the national average rate per mile for van freight was $1.76 per mile according CCJ magazine and I will bump that by .10 to make it $1.86 per mile to use in this exercise. I know you guys are super negoiaters and you get $10 per mile, well good for you. I am going to be realistic and use the national average compensated for the extra FSC added to bring up to date.
According to OOIDA the average fixed cost for a 140,000 mile per year operation is around $0.29 per mile and the variable cost less fuel is around $0.25 per mile with driver pay plugged in at $0.50 per mile for a total cost per mile less fuel at $1.06 per mile.
Now we can assume the 70 mph truck gets 5.7 mpg and the 57 mph truck gets 7.0 mpg and fuel is at the current national average of $4.15 per gallon. Again this is averages I see posted everywhere on the net and not the guys who seriously work on fuel mileage mechanically and with driver habits.
These numbers are based on 140,000 per year solo operation that is 2,692 miles per week that is not close to the guys who claim 3,000+ miles per week.
Fuel cost per mile for 70 mph truck = $0.72 per mile
Fuel cost per mile for 57 mph truck = $0.59 per mile
Fixed cost per mile for both trucks = $0.29 per mile
Variable cost less fuel per mile = $0.26 per mile
Driver pay per mile for both trucks = $0.50 per mile
Total cost per mile for 70 mph truck = $1.77 per mile ($247,800)
Total cost per mile for 57 mph truck = $1.64 per mile ($229,600)
Total revenue for 70 mph truck running 140,000 miles per year
@ $1.86 per mile = $260,400 - $247,800 = $12,600 profit
For the 58 mph truck to make same profit as 70 mph truck would
only take 57,273 miles.
Total revenue for 58 mph truck running 140,000 miles per year
@ $1.86 per mile = $260,400 - $229,600 = $30,800 profit
For the 70 mph truck to make same profit as 58 mph truck would
take an impossible 342,222 miles.
OK you guys are now whinning you get $2 per mile for every mile because you are better than the average in the industry......
Total revenue for 70 mph truck running 140,000 miles per year
@ $2.00 per mile = $280,000 - $247,800 = $32,200 profit
For the 58 mph truck to make same profit as 70 mph truck would
only take 89,444 miles.
Total revenue for 58 mph truck running 140,000 miles per year
@ $2.00 per mile = $280,000 - $229,600 = $50,400 profit
For the 70 mph truck to make same profit as 58 mph truck would
take a basically impossible 219,130 miles.
Even by the above numbers @ $2 per mile freight, I would rather drive 89,444 miles a year @ 57 mph to make the same as a driver running 70 mph for 140,000 miles. That is 50,556 miles less for the same amount of profit or I could run 140,000 miles @ 57 mph and make $18,200 more in that year from fuel savings.
Again, I have done it the fast way for years and you can see by the numbers it is more profitable to go slower and cut the biggest expense in trucking, "FUEL" to make that profit. Most guys that tell you they make more money going faster have never tried going slower and are only trying to make excuses for going faster. Been there, done that!
The motto of this story is to truck smarter and not harder.
Let me add those that question less maintainence cost running slower, just look at the number of miles to earn the same profit of $32,200 has the 70 mph truck running 140,000 miles with the 57 mph truck running 89,444 miles for the same profit, but the annual variable cost less fuel is:
70 mph truck @ $0.26 per mile = $36,400
58 mph truck @ $0.26 per mile = $23,255
Difference annually variable cost = $13,145
That is $13,145 less wear and tear per year to make same profit!
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sure....
And driving an average of 60-62 MPH (66-70 mph governed)
I will also benefit by doing it in 12 weeks less time than you did as well.
Allowing me to work an additional 3 months this year doing in 9 months what would take you 12.
That 3 months would be me OVER the national average you are claiming and put you under the national average.
And that is where I am calling bunk on this argument.
You are ignoring that a slower truck costs you hours running allowing you to generate more revenue.
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You left out one important Variable. TIME. Time is also Money I drove 187,000 Miles last year. That is staying within 5 mph of the speed limit. and No speeding tickets or warnings. I get paid for every mile I drove. and I could not of done that if I had been Governed at 58. thus I would of made a lot less money or I would of got NO Off time. Now if you only want to drive 140,000 miles. Then sure. Drive slower. but again. You will only be home the same amount of time I am at 187,000 miles. 187,000 divided by Ave speed of 63 mph is 57 hours of driving per week. Now if you are Governed at 58 your ave speed would be 52 mph instead of 63. at 57 hours of driving per week you would only be able to drive 154128 miles. So the driver would in the 58 mph truck would make $63192 in a year of driving at ave speed of 52mph for 57 hours per week and the driver at 72 mph would make $76670 at ave speed of 63 mph for 57 hours per week both making .41 cents per Mile. so for the same amount of time and the same amount per mile. A driver would make $13478 more in a year working 57 hours per week if he were governed at where my truck is. 72 mph. As a driver, They are being Robbed so the company can make more money. I already told my company that there are enough small companies out there that will hire me with out governed trucks that if they nutted me down to under 72, I would go to one of them. So all the other trucks are nutted at 65 and the drivers are peved that I make more miles every week.
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