They must ban "cpm" and "piecerate" pay

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Northeasterner, Jan 7, 2020.

  1. LoneRanger

    LoneRanger Road Train Member

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    If it goes hourly watch everyone starts driving under the speed limit, taking hours to hook up, and countless other things.

    best thing about this job is only the hungry and strong survive the weak and full are starved out.
     
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  3. skinnytrucker79

    skinnytrucker79 Light Load Member

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    I guess my argument to the low pay this industry has been in for years is why would companies pay more if they got no shortage of warm bodies to fill a seat, like the old saying goes “if it’s not broken, don’t fix it” . The turnover rate might be 100% (or whatever it’s at now) theirs still another window fogger lined up ready to go .
    Trucking is classified as “unskilled labor” (for anyone living under a rock) ... that’s one big
    Massive loophole for Megas to hire anyone with a pulse and barely enough skills to operate a toaster

    it also makes anyone with a 1/2 way decent credit score to buy a truck and start hauling cheap freight

    the market is way over saturated the way it is. Thousands of jobs lost, trucking companies closed but I haven’t seen any dent in truck congestion on the highways or more available truck parking . Let’s start with a massive purge this industry has needed for a long time, and someone bring the hammer down on the megas where they can buy many trucks as they can and keep packing them full with anyone with a heartbeat willing to work for slave wages
     
  4. x1Heavy

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    Thats the problem.

    One company that flamed out really bad hired me one day. Bottom of driver number 226.

    6 months later I am driver 32 or something, top 15 will die in senority. The rest of the existing 235 drivers were replaced after me. That means they had Me and about 18 drivers stay with the company 6 months. 200+ were fired, let go, quit etc. ALL replaced.

    The last time I saw that yard, both fuel pumps were quietly filling the island with a lake in a major spill. It did it's best to empty the above ground 8000 gallon tank into the gravel. glug glug glug. Welp, I aint fueling there today. Go to Frederick for that.

    When I left, it took weeks for the screech of the girls in dispatch to get out of my head. They were never happy. They never purr, coo or tease. just hellions screeching or harpies rather. Ugh.
     
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  5. Doealex

    Doealex Medium Load Member

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    What stopping you from getting your own truck/trailer/authority? Then, as long as you pay Uncle Sam, insurance, registration, fuel and tolls you will be paid for all the hours. But don’t come back here complaining IF your pay increase is not worth extra headache and responsibilities.
     
  6. Antinomian

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    It's a valid point, but it raises a chicken and egg question. Yes big corporations exploit workers by co-opting powerful government regulatory agencies. But could they do that if those powerful government agencies didn't exist? Most industries get into the lobbying game initially as a defensive tactic, then learn that they can bend government to their own interests. And it's not just big businesses that play the game. Labor unions didn't have any real lasting successes until they stopped breaking factory windows and started bribing politicians. The problem always ultimately comes down to government. If the power exists, interested parties will be drawn to it.

    By the way, I hate this term "crony capitalism". The correct term is mercantilism, which means the use of force to produce particular winners in the market. I think the left coined the term crony capitalism in an attempt to smear the free market. The market isn't the problem though. Interference with the market by the government on behalf of favored interests is.
     
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  7. scott180

    scott180 Road Train Member

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    If a manager actually manages his employees why would this happen?

    Let the lowly dogs fight for the scraps off of masters table. The "hungry and strong" will eat their fill of scraps and go groveling back to master saying what a good dogie am I. Meanwhile never daring to look at the banquet on the masters table.

    I'm paraphrasing a little but is this what you meant? :rolleyes:
     
  8. LoneRanger

    LoneRanger Road Train Member

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    Great another minimum wage employee telling a minimum wage employee how to do their job 2000 miles away. What could happen to that?


    Usually the hungry are the ones who find better rates and better jobs because the never ending pursuit, the full aka comfortable with what they have are the ones who dont care.
     
  9. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    Same post different poster. How can companies pay drivers more when there are so many expenses just to operate? Also why would companies pay drivers more when so many more quit than stick around? Protesting ain't going to change a thing. We are in too deep and the we have picked leaders that put the power in the hands of the wealthy. Might as well get used to it OP
     
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  10. gentleroger

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    I am "helping out" with a dedicated account that pays drivers a daily rate.

    I make more working the same hours because I am piece rate.

    Its not pay structure that you gave an issue with - it is overall compensation.
     
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  11. skinnytrucker79

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    some companies can afford to pay a lot more . BUTTTTTTTT if they got no shortage of bodies willing to work for what they already pay why change it. And you’re right. I’m sure if most companies hire 10 drivers maybe 1-2 might make it past the first year . Why invest in short term
     
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