They need to mandate hourly w/ OT after 40

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Northeasterner, Jan 21, 2023.

  1. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    There's plenty making sure doritos don't expire or the couch doesn't suddenly fly away..
    So, you are looking for help from the government because you either can't or won't compete/show your worth/convince someone to pay you an amount you'd be happy with - at the same time, when you go to buy say toilet paper, the more businesses competing for you to buy their toilet paper - they can compete with each other by way of price. Would that be a fair assessment? Or does the idea the entire toilet paper industry is colluding, knowing they can make it and put it on the shelf for $5 and sell it for $10 and not one American ever said hey I can also make it for 5 and I can make a good living selling it for 7.50 and on and on it goes.

    Competition is good.
     
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  3. Stringb8n

    Stringb8n Road Train Member

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    The exemption applies ONLY to those carriers who operate in "interstate commerce" and how that is defined by the SoT. This is why many LTL carriers, though drivers are home daily many aren't paid overtime pay. The only ones I can think of that pay it after 40 are UPS and FedEx. Others pay it, some don't, but those that do the majority of them the hours you have to work before hitting that sweet OT rate are 50 or more per week. When I did LTL (very briefly, I hated every minute of it), I wasn't paid OT at all, but was paid $25 an hour to start.
     
  4. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    That's a good one. Nope. Not a recruiter of any kind. Just a company driver that worked my arse off to get where I got. Never had any kind of government help of any kind. Biggest trucking company I worked for had 175 trucks, so there was no mega carrier crap to deal with. Left there for a better deal and more money. Certainly didn't whine about workers rights and such, I just left and got a better deal by marketing myself and my worth.

    In this thread, you may be correct on that. And that would be only because I'm totally against having the government making some stupid regulations for an industry they know nothing about. I think I've been very consistent with my stance on that.

    "and get awful aggressive towards workers who just want fair, consistent, transparent pay and better working conditions."

    No aggression here pal. You want fair, consistent, transparent pay and better work conditions? Go get it! Nobody's stopping you! There's thousands of companies that already offer what you want, and guess what? Nobody told them they had to! But they do these things to attract good drivers.

    Ever notice how the big companies screaming for E logs and speed limiters and more government intrusion are the ones that have high crash rates, and can't seem to find good help? Ever see the caliber of people they hire? Theyre shells of companies propped up by government intervention. And look at them. Take away the government money and they'd be bankrupt within a week.

    You know I saw I bumper sticker one time at my Uncle's shop at his business he built from the ground up. He's a multi millionaire today. The bumper sticker said "Get it the same way I did.... WORK FOR IT!" That has been my mentality ever since. And has served me rather well.

    Crying over social media has gained me nothing.

    We may agree to disagree (or not), and that's ok too. Don't bother me a bit. But no aggression on my end. Because as I stated, I've made it to a point I'm happy and content.

    Lemme ask this. If you had say 30 years invested in your career (for the record I haven't been working that long), would you be ok with being paid the same rate as a brand new hire with zero experience? I'd hope not.
     
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  5. scott180

    scott180 Road Train Member

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    The cpm is a great way to disguise driver pay. When new drivers realize how much free time they are giving away and how traffic and weather affects their pay they quit. Are the companies being dishonest, well no not technically. Are the companies fully divulging the hours required to do the job vs what the average pay works out to be, of course not.
    A new driver making $1,250 a week may be happy thinking $250 a day is great money. But between driving, on duty, off duty but really working like fuelling and at shipper/receiver as well as all the other stuff that doesn't get logged they'll be working at least 14 hours a day most days. To make that $250 in a 14 hour day in the "normal labor force" thay would be paid $13.15 an hour plus OT. And this doesn't take into account sleeping and eating away from home for the companies benefit with no additional compensation. As soon as it dawns on them they could just get a second part time job and be better off they quit trucking.
    Yes they could stick it out and if they don't make any mistakes in 3 years they'll be qualified for better work.
    Many of us started when the pay was better. Many like being on the road. Many like the work. So enough of us stick around and there's plenty of new people who think it'll work out for them. The trucking industry has a turnover rate that hovers around 90%. Not your problem because you have a good job, think again.
    One of two things need tohappen.
    1. Pay and working conditions need to improve.
    Or.
    2. They need to find people willing to accept the current pay and working conditions.
    I know what one I think they are working towards and it's not the one that improves my life.
     
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