things that you can get csa points that has nothing to do with safety

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  1. Ruckie

    Ruckie Road Train Member

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    Violation code 393.76 not having your sleeper bed made (I sleep on my sleeping bag so I don't need sheets or anything like that)
    Violation code 395.15g not having a sheet with instructions for d.o.t officers to operate your elog
    Violation code 392.2dim if you are heavy on your trailer and need to keep them that way to stay within legal limits and a dot officer wants to give you a weight ticket but he legally can't you will get this violation for not sliding your tandems.

    Those are the 3 so call violations a d.o.t officer spent 1 1/2 hours finding in a level one inspection I had early today in upstate New York... Did I mentioned I was kept in the back of a cruiser while they went thru my stuff?
     
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  3. fisher guy

    fisher guy Road Train Member

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    u really pissed in his wheates didnt u???
    id be arrested if they ever seen my bed haha not to mention always keep ur cutain closed they have no buisness back there as a matter of fact i always thought the cab was as far as they could with out probable cause bunk was off limits
     
  4. fisher guy

    fisher guy Road Train Member

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    i read up on the bed being made thing as long as u have a blanket ur should be ok no where does it say u have to have it made
     
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  5. fisher guy

    fisher guy Road Train Member

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    (a) Dimensions'(1) Size. A sleeper berth must be at least the following size: [TABLE="class: GPOTABLE"]
    [TR="class: BOXHD"]
    [TH="class: CHED"]Date of installation on motor vehicle[/TH]
    [TH="class: CHED"]Length measured on centerline of longitudinal axis (inches)[/TH]
    [TH="class: CHED"]Width measured on centerline of transverse axis (inches)[/TH]
    [TH="class: CHED"] Height measured from highest point of top of mattress (inches) 1[/TH]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: ROW"]
    [TD="class: ENT"]Before January 1, 1953[/TD]
    [TD="class: ENT"]72[/TD]
    [TD="class: ENT"]18[/TD]
    [TD="class: ENT"]18[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: ROW"]
    [TD="class: ENT"]After December 31, 1952, and before October 1, 1975[/TD]
    [TD="class: ENT"]75[/TD]
    [TD="class: ENT"]21[/TD]
    [TD="class: ENT"]21[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR="class: ROW"]
    [TD="class: ENT"]After September 30, 1975[/TD]
    [TD="class: ENT"]75[/TD]
    [TD="class: ENT"]24[/TD]
    [TD="class: ENT"]24[/TD]
    [/TR]
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    [TD="class: TNOTE"]1 In the case of a sleeper berth which utilizes an adjustable mechanical suspension system, the required clearance can be measured when the suspension system is adjusted to the height to which it would settle when occupied by a driver. [/TD]
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    [/TABLE]
    (2) Shape. A sleeper berth installed on a motor vehicle on or after January 1, 1953 must be of generally rectangular shape, except that the horizontal corners and the roof corners may be rounded to radii not exceeding 101/2 inches. (3) Access. A sleeper berth must be constructed so that an occupant's ready entrance to, and exit from, the sleeper berth is not unduly hindered. (b) Location. (1) A sleeper berth must not be installed in or on a semitrailer or a full trailer other than a house trailer. (2) A sleeper berth located within the cargo space of a motor vehicle must be securely compartmentalized from the remainder of the cargo space. A sleeper berth installed on or after January 1, 1953 must be located in the cab or immediately adjacent to the cab and must be securely fixed with relation to the cab. (c) Exit from the berth. (1) Except as provided in paragraph (c)(2) of this section, there must be a direct and ready means of exit from a sleeper berth into the driver's seat or compartment. If the sleeper berth was installed on or after January 1, 1963, the exit must be a doorway or opening at least 18 inches high and 36 inches wide. If the sleeper berth was installed before January 1, 1963, the exit must have sufficient area to contain an ellipse having a major axis of 24 inches and a minor axis of 16 inches. (2) A sleeper berth installed before January 1, 1953 must either:(i) Conform to the requirements of paragraph (c)(1) of this section; or(ii) Have at least two exits, each of which is at least 18 inches high and 21 inches wide, located at opposite ends of the vehicle and useable by the occupant without the assistance of any other person. (d) Communication with the driver. A sleeper berth which is not located within the driver's compartment and has no direct entrance into the driver's compartment must be equipped with a means of communication between the occupant and the driver. The means of communication may consist of a telephone, speaker tube, buzzer, pull cord, or other mechanical or electrical device. (e) Equipment. A sleeper berth must be properly equipped for sleeping. Its equipment must include: (1) Adequate bedclothing and blankets; and(2) Either: (i) Springs and a mattress; or(ii) An innerspring mattress; or(iii) A cellular rubber or flexible foam mattress at least four inches thick; or(iv) A mattress filled with a fluid and of sufficient thickness when filled to prevent "bottoming-out" when occupied while the vehicle is in motion. (f) Ventilation. A sleeper berth must have louvers or other means of providing adequate ventilation. A sleeper berth must be reasonably tight against dust and rain. (g) Protection against exhaust and fuel leaks and exhaust heat. A sleeper berth must be located so that leaks in the vehicle's exhaust system or fuel system do not permit fuel, fuel system gases, or exhaust gases to enter the sleeper berth. A sleeper berth must be located so that it will not be overheated or damaged by reason of its proximity to the vehicle's exhaust system. (h) Occupant restraint. A motor vehicle manufactured on or after July 1, 1971, and equipped with a sleeper berth must be equipped with a means of preventing ejection of the occupant of the sleeper berth during deceleration of the vehicle. The restraint system must be designed, installed, and maintained to withstand a minimum total force of 6,000 pounds applied toward the front of the vehicle and parallel to the longitudinal axis of the vehicle.
     
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  6. ralph

    ralph Road Train Member

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    They can go into the bunk under the guise that they are checking for an exhaust leak.
     
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  7. donaldderby

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    That's good stuff to know, out of curiosity though was he provoked or just being a jerk?
     
  8. JoeyJunk

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    The first one is laughable. Second one I was aware of. Third one is a true violation. To be legal must be at proper weight AND within bridge law limitations. Legally he can give you a ticket. Should have gone back to shipper to have freight removed or reworked. If you were in the cruiser, how do you know he went through your stuff? Not pickin, just askin.
     
  9. Ruckie

    Ruckie Road Train Member

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    Well I couldn't do much sitting in the back of a police cruiser, I had my sleeping bag in top of it I guess he was just mad that a werner driver was capable of passing a level 1 inspection with flying colors or just felt like making somebody's day as miserable as his
     
  10. Ruckie

    Ruckie Road Train Member

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    he left my bunk in the open position, I wasn't overweight officially ( about 79,500) but if I had moved my tandems forward I would have too much weight in one of the axles, it was a split coming from Ohio so I couldn't do much
     
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  11. donaldderby

    donaldderby Bobtail Member

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    Ruckie I hear you on that although i'm not otr yet i have been in industry for my entire life and if there is one thing my dad taught me its that the dot wants your mood to directly reflect their day.
     
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