Think I have a case for not repaying a loan?

Discussion in 'Swift' started by ltwombat, Oct 24, 2012.

  1. ltwombat

    ltwombat Light Load Member

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    Did my DOT physical in August. On page 1 of the long form I listed my few medications and why I take them. Faxed it all to my recruiter and was given the OK to attend Swift Academy, which I completed. Went to orientation and now Swift is saying one of my meds is disqualifying, even with a doctors clearance, BUT, I still owe $4,400 for the academy and hotel. I had planned to pay for the academy through payroll deduction but looks like that won't be happening now. I feel that since I clearly listed the med I should have been denied the academy if it was a problem but I guess no one really looks at your paperwork until orientation. That's why some of the others got sent home for bad phone numbers for references, previous work places and background stuff.

    I have a call into my recruiter to get a list of approved meds so my doc can see if one of them will be ok to switch to but until then I am grounded. This sucks!
     
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  3. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    what's your contract say?
     
  4. Cobra67y20

    Cobra67y20 Medium Load Member

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    Never, Never, Never trust Swift!!!
     
  5. jbatmick

    jbatmick Road Train Member

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    If you got your CDL, you owe the money.
     
  6. ralph

    ralph Road Train Member

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    Is the med disqualifying you in Swift's eyes or the DOT's eyes?

    IF you can prove that you were up front an truthful I would tell them to pound sand! IF you can work elsewhere (because the drug ban is a Swift policy) then you may not have as big a legal leg to stand on.
     
  7. ltwombat

    ltwombat Light Load Member

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    Per swift the academy is just that, the academy. You have no promise of employment after completion, the conditional job offer is based on the condition you pass all DOT and Swift policies. The drug mentioned is not a DOT disqualification but it is for Swift, Schneider, JB and probably all the rest of the megas. It is a disqualification because it is prescribed as a seizure med, but I take it for another reason. I called my doc at the VA and he said he would write a letter indicating why he prescribed it and see if that does any good. Problem is the VA does nothing fast so I doubt any action will happen this week and I really need to get to work. Where I live there are no trucking companies within 100 miles except for the mineral haulers, but they require 3 years recent OTR to hire on so I have no options there. Guess this is what i get for living in the middle of the Mojave desert.
     
  8. Big Don

    Big Don "Old Fart"

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    Well, while you might be able to weasel out of it with the help of a lawyer, (which would probably cost more than just paying it,) if you completed the school and got your CDL, then you OWE the money. Now if you didn't get your CDL, then it is more problematical. Then you really might have a way of getting out of it. UNLESS you didn't get your CDL because of some other reason.
     
  9. CondoCruiser

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    I would talk with a lawyer because you were led to believe you would have a job with them if you attended their school. They were deceiving from the get go.

    These mega carriers think they can entrust these recruiters who fail to meet company standards. Then they wait to see if you show up before they do the background checks to keep costs down. Commitment to employment should be made the day they put you on a bus and not when they decide to finally do a background check. All that stuff can and should be done before hand.

    If it was a narcotic you can hang it up. Personal doctors know nothing of DOT regulations. They might tell you "you can drive" but it's a big no no in the trucking world. But then again they shouldn't of let you go through training when they were already aware of it.
     
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  10. TooGroovy

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    why do you have to go to VA? Why is not a generic... "it does does not interfere with driving..." from an MD which you could get from any clinic work... the reason I ask is because I take medication that was cleared with this kind of a letter.
     
  11. brsims

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    The funny thing in my eyes is that carriers refuse to do background checks because they claim they will lose money performing background checks on new hires who do not arrive for orientation. My question is how much money do the carriers lose in arranging transportation and lodging for new hires that they end up turning away due to information that is located directly on the application the new hire provided prior to the new hires orientation date being organized.

    For example, last year I applied to Western Express for their flatbed division. On my application and during my conversations with the recruiting department, I made sure to clearly explain my lack of recent experience. I did everything I could short of hiring a skywriter for the skies of Nashville, TN to make sure Western Express was fully aware of my lack of recent experience. Orientation was scheduled, and I was reasonably sure I was hired, as there were no other issues on my application that had not been fully questioned and explained to the recruiter's satisfaction. By the way, I had been recruited by Western Express directly not a third-party recruiter.

    I arrived in Nashville, attended all the orientation functions and even went through the complete load securement course. Throughout all of this, the only question seemed to be whether I would go out with a trainer, or get assigned a truck of my own and be dispatched out as a solo. On the last day of load securement training, I was offered a shot at a dedicated account out of Aliquippa, PA and asked if I could shuttle a couple of trucks back and forth. However, right before I was handed the keys to the first truck to be moved, I was pulled aside with two other individuals and informed I did not have enough experience to even be considered for student status.

    Really? How can a company go from questioning whether or not a new hire needs training, to offering a new hire a shot at a dedicated account, to deciding a new hire can't even be brought in as a student? And to be clear, I explained on numerous occassions that I had no issues with going out with a trainer if the company so desired. I spent alot of time while I was in Nashville talking to many different drivers and formed the impression that the flatbed side of Western Express was essentially a different company than the dry van side. Not all the flatbedders I spoke to were happy, but that's to be expected with any outfit. I was really excited to be a part of the company, and had anticipated a fairly successful run as one of their drivers. ###### shame, really.

    When one considers the amount of money Western Express had invested in me, from transportation costs to and from Nashville, TN (yes, they covered my trip back home) which cost better than $100 per trip according to the ticket and receipt I got from Greyhound, to the Medical Certification and drug test costs, to the hotel, to the orientation materials and securement training, Western Express had invested a considerable amount of money into me. Add two other drivers in my orientation class who were in the same exact situation as myself, plus the drivers who were rejected for other reasons during the orientation process, and its plain to see Western Express is losing quite a bit of money that they would not be losing if they would do some background checks on their perspective employees before bringing them in for orientation.

    Or does this amount of simple common sense cause little bean counter heads to explode?
     
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