Thinking of working as a subcontractor?.......New drivers beware.

Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by Trade up, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. Trade up

    Trade up Light Load Member

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    If anyone has ever wondered what it would be like to work as a subcontractor without being the owner of the equipment,stop thinking.

    It is a waste of your time and eventually it will be a waste of your money when the company decides not to pay you.

    When working as a subcontractor,many "Gypsies" will ask you to go out and get a business license and tell you the virtues of being able to write everything off against your taxes. The first thing you should be asking yourself here is "Do I need to spend money to get a driving job,when I already have a license?". No you shouldn't,especially if you have zero say in regards to how the equipment is used. Many of these "Gypsies" will hold back a "deposit" in case you damage the equipment(most likely they won't tell you that until you come back from the first run,so basically you can kiss that money goodbye,you will never see it.).

    They won't pay you anymore money than a company driver but they promise that the tax deductions will make up for it. Revenue Canada won't recognise you as a subcontractor and accept your claims for one main reasons. 1)You must own the equipment you're using or be making the payments on the truck. Otherwise you are just a employee that has waived all their rights by agreeing to "work under the table" so to speak.

    They will most likely promise big mileage runs into the South or Southwest.
    The reason they can do that is simply because they have cut the shipping rate to get the freight. They can afford to cut the rate simply because they won't be paying you benefits,vacation pay,stat holiday pay and they won't be paying into your employment insurance.

    Questions to ask: 1) Will I have an employee/employer relationship?
    2) Will there be any "holdback"?(Holdback? Run.)
    3) How often will I get paid? Weekly/biweekly/monthly? (monthly or bi weekly? Run....depending on the next run they could be sitting on at least a months worth of pay).
    4) Where is your yard located?(no yard? Run.)

    Here is an example you may call if you don't believe me. This add caught my eye right away.
    If a job looks to good to be true......it usually is.

    http://www.driverlink.com/mydl/resu...0&djid=11060&jobpostingid=11058&officefeid=-1
     
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  3. Flying Finn

    Flying Finn Heavy Load Member

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    Yep, sure sounds like some of the "fly by night" "import" owned companies I have seen on the road. More than likely these "owners" immigrated to Canada and decided that since they knew the rules in their home country as well as how trucks/drivers are treated there (Watch IRT Deadliest Roads to get an idea of the mentality they are bringing here) they can do the same here.

    No wonder we have a bad reputation. I have met some very good and respectful immigrant drivers. I have also met many more who are rude, nasty, unclean, ignorant, and downright terrible drivers and "owners". Whenever I get a call or e-mail from a "recruiter" that cannot speak English well enough that I can understand him I flat out ignore/run from that place.
     
  4. Lil'Devil

    Lil'Devil Heavy Load Member

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    Trade up is right, I would stay far away from someone who insists you be incorporated or be paid as a contractor, it means he is cheap and doesn't want to pay CPP, EI, wsib, etc. You have no protection, there is only so much you can write off, and usually in the end if you don't have a really good accountant you will end up paying a lot of money to the goverment.

    In my opinion it is more trouble than it is worth

    We have had drivers want to work for us who wanted to be paid this way and we said no way, we don't need anyone coming back on us for someone not paying their taxes.
     
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