THIS actually makes sense

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Knightcrawler, Jun 6, 2025.

  1. Knightcrawler

    Knightcrawler Road Train Member

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    Im not saying they should cut military spending - par se.

    Im saying they need to pay what they SHOULD pay for it. Like I said, Stingers were 25k in 1991, now they are 400k. You cant tell me the cost to make them went up 16 times in 34 years. Bread for example went up 2.5 times...

    If they paid what they SHOULD for it, they would need less money for the same things. So yes, the budget would be smaller, but what we get FOR IT would be the same.
     
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  3. buddyd157

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    true, 1 hammer at Sears was normally like $7.00 but no bidding....was like what....$5,000...??

    a toilet was like....$20,000....???
     
  4. Knightcrawler

    Knightcrawler Road Train Member

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    Back in the mid 1970s I was at Eglin AFB (training Rangers) in Florida reading a story in either Stars and Stripes, Army times, or maybe the local paper about 2 local air force pilots that were kicked out because they went to ACE hardware and bought some light bulbs for their planes. Their planes were redlined because some of the dash lights were out and the base didnt have the funding to replace them at $3000 apiece. So the pilots went to ACE hardware, bought them for less than a buck, replaced them, and flew with them.

    No ####. True story.
     
  5. buddyd157

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    i'll bet you that Volvo truck owners wish they could buy thier light bulbs for less than a buck.

    No ####....
     
  6. Knightcrawler

    Knightcrawler Road Train Member

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    Well, this was 1975 I think. So yeah.
     
  7. Ridgeline

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    You all overthink things

    It has been done here for trains but there are issues with it, one of them is we need at least 25K volts on those lines and it isn't the best on our highways. The other problem is the entire trip has to be automated, no drivers, if you need a reason why, just look around. And another problem is with the idea of the pantograph being on top, no more condo sleepers.

    As for security issues, I am more worried about the drivers we have on the road than having someone try to take out overhead lines.
     
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  8. Knightcrawler

    Knightcrawler Road Train Member

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    Why would you think the trip would have to be driverless? You can connect or disconnect from the wires as needed.

    Its true they dont use conventionals in europe. The Argosy was a decent truck.
     
  9. Moose1958

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    I was in the USAF in the 1970s and heard about that story. It was never confirmed as actually happening that way. I sent a link to your comment to an Air Force veteran Facebook group full of veterans who served going back to the 1950s. Nobody can confirm that story. I called and spoke with my son-in-law late last evening about the California events and asked him if he had ever heard about it. He said no, but there is an old war story about some Army Airborne Chopper pilots buying bulbs like that. I then used a search function and got this result.

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  10. Knightcrawler

    Knightcrawler Road Train Member

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    No, I didnt hear it from anyone. The only Zoomie contacts we had at the base were at the base hospital when we dropped guys off, and we werent there long enough to chat. I read it in some newspaper. Just dont recall which one. I would guess it was the local paper. Im pretty sure the only time I even saw a Stars and Stripes was in Germany, and I dont know why the army times would carry a story like that.

    Maybe a copy of Air Force Times ended up at Camp Darby and I read it there? Dont know about Air Force times, but Army times back then wasnt afraid to be a little critical of the army.
     
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  11. Blu_Ogre

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    Slight correction. That is one form of hybrid.....

    I know of three types of hybrid systems that have been put into service on the road.

    Inline system: What diesel locomotives and others use. Basically electric drive with a generator to keep batteries charged up.

    Supplemental: vehicle runs primarily on fuel but has a supplemental electric motor and charge system. Electric motor only kicks in to help out the fuel motor for starting form a stop and perhaps a bit pulling a grade. Implemented in early GM and Honda systems. Motors are typically not strong enough to run the car without the fuel motor.

    Parallel system: What the Prius uses. Both the electric motor and the gas motor outputs go into the trans. Car is moved with either or both power sources. Plug-in hybrids are a variation of this. They have bigger battery pack that can be charged from a wall unit that gives more range before the fuel motor kicks in. Electric only range was only 30 miles at the last one I glanced at. Not a practical solution for me since it would not do a round trip to the bigger town as electric only.
     
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