This is *WHY* one must not "Blend" Amateur Radio with "CB"

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by Gadfly, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. WA4GCH

    WA4GCH Road Train Member

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    You better stand up for your right to use your radio .....
     
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  3. Chemcat

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    I am in complete agreement with outerspacehillbilly. I'm a trucker and could care less about any thing other than 11 meter frequencies. I use 27.185 (channel 19) almost all the time unless I'm in contact with a person that wants to drop it to another channel, also on the 11 meter band. The radio for me is a tool to help with driving conditions and being able to navigate safely and efficiently. That said, I do use an export radio because it does have the ability to actually get through to the person I'm talking to unlike the stock cb radios that lose connectivity once you're out of line of sight. If you're in a very congested metropolitan area as I am a stock 4 watt cb radio is ok for receive but of negligible value on transmit. I like to be heard if I do key up, either in asking for information or giving it if another driver asks a question I can answer. With a bit stronger radio I have the ability to give the person valuable informaton. I don't want to run an amp in my work tractor and don't want to have to run the extra wiring. My little 90 watt radio suits me fine and does what I want it to do. I don't make trouble for anybody and no one makes trouble for me.
     
  4. jessejamesdallas

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    See...It is threads and stupid post's like your's Gadfly that keeps me from even considering going after my ticket...Seems like some guys that are Ham op's think they are better than White Bread because they have a Ham lic...And sit and think of nothing but how to try and shut down CB Radio so they can have the air waves to themselfs...Least thats the way it sounds...The first post in this thread that you posted the FCC letter of the guy busted, was from 2007...and it wasn't till a year later before the citation was delivered, and only then after the nut-job had been warned several times about screwing up someones TV set...OK. So the guy was asking for it! But the way you make it out, everyone who free-bands, or runs excessive power on a CB radio is going to get busted...That's just not true. Unless your being stupid, and running power at your house, and tearing up your neighbors electronics...And if thats the case, and Authority's come knocking on your door and tell ya to cool it, but you go right ahead and keep up the same old crap, then you get whatever you deserve.

    Maybe you should try and point out some of he more "Positive" sides of being a Ham Op., instead of trying to Police the air waves...Personally, I know of no Ham Operator who uses the 10 meter band to start with, probably because it's too close to the 11 meter band...(not sure if thats the reason or not, but have been told thats part of the reason)

    I like it the way you post that it sounds like everyone who is a Ham, is some how Superior to people who run CB Radios...Everytime I read one of your post's, it just makes me think you really need to get a life, and quit worrying so much about what others do with their radios...

    Face it...11 Meter is a antique way of communication to start with...That's one reason the FCC quit monitoring it. Now days only a small fraction of the population even owns a working CB Radio...And the ones that get busted are usually people who shouldn't even be allowed to walk the streets with normal people anyway...

    You want to try and clean up the Ham Bands, maybe you should start with cleaning up your act first. Lumping all CB Radio operators together like you do, is just another forum of racism.
     
  5. Rat

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    Well we are compairing apples to oranges here in the first place. Amature radio is a slowly dieing hobby while Trucking is a growing business that will NEVER die. Trucking can not be replaced period. Not unless they start running railroad tracks to each and every store in the country etc.

    The FCC would not even bother with amature radio at all if it were not due to the complaints by a few operators. The enforcment actions being taken on truckers for operating illegal equipment is a small fraction. And it would be even less because the FCC has bigger fish to fry then people getting on the ham bands.

    This is another reason why they could just as well lift the power limits on CB radio operations. They don't have the time or money to enforce it in the first place.
     
  6. Kansas

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    That may very well be the gayest thing I have ever heard in my life.
     
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  7. Phil1Fla

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    Hmmm I guess that the net that runs on 28.310 every morning doesn't count.
    We work two nets at the same time one on 28.310 and one on 146.820- Monday to Friday from 11:15z to 12:45z. And sometimes I run mobile digital (aka PSK31)on 28.120. Also run APRS so that my friends can track me. and it also gives me a way to always send a quick e-mail. Like if there is a major accident I can contact the state EOC in a flash.

    Now you boys fight real nice like Because I don't want to get my computer all banged up on the inside. LOL
     
  8. WA4GCH

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    There are many hams on 10 meters I have been on since the late 80's
     

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  9. Gadfly

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    You are just as WRONG as wrong can be! Amateur radio is NOT "dying". Its numbers have remained about the same, ratio of numbers vs population-wise. That statement is another popular CB myth (like coax length)

    CB radio will NEVER get more anything. All such a wishful thing would do is MAKE it WORSE for the users of CB! CBers, because they don't know what they are doing, CAUSE their own problems.

    Amateur radio proves itself to be a VALUABLE resource each and every day with its disaster relief and life-saving efforts such that governments worldwide recognize and encourage it.

    If there IS a complaint to LICENSED services, FCC is required to respond to it. And they WILL respond to CB complaints as well, but not as quickly as they will to the licensed services who, by their nature, like it or not including amateur radio, are considered essential.

    Congress HAS increased FCC funding in the past, so it not impossible for them to do it again. Last summer, for example, Congress has called for a return to TECHNICAL COMPETENCE more so than the POLITICAL considerations governing it in the past 20 years. With such return to technical expertise, the emphasis and realization of the need for enforcement will be more acute. This will require additional funding that CB radio has snickered over, our laws being mocked and ignored----all will come to pass eventually. Trucking does NOT have to HAVE CB radio per se. There are far better ways to do it with today's technology. The CB is basically a quaint "toy" and a pastime. NOT that that is a "bad" thing, just CB just seems to PROMOTE and even CAUSE illegal operation that affects other people. CB IS what it is. It needs self-control AND more enforcement with which it COULD be more useful in its current form. Thirty years ago (or so), there was a proposal to MOVE the CB band to 220 MHZ, but the powerful ARRL (amateur) lobby blocked it. It would've had some advantages:
    1. QUIET FM with almost NO noise
    2. Almost NO "skip"
    3. Because of almost NO skip, MORE stations could USE it at a given time
    since stations WAY off would not hear the locals.
    4. The "capture" effect of FM that tends to "grab" the strongest signal.
    5. More power (so desired by CBers) could be used for longer, direct
    reach without bothering other stations.

    6. More modern equipment and modes could be used (digital?)

    I HATED it got shot down because it would've solved some problems!

    With the migration of so much VHF operation, it could yet happen with something for the industry around 150-155 MHZ! Time will tell.

    GF
     
  10. musicmaker

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    I enjoy the 2 meter a lot. Lots of 2 meter/440 repeaters across the USA. I have a bumper sticker with my call sign on the back of the trailer. Never knew so many cops had 2 meter radios-lol... Plus I like the RACES and ARES events.
     
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  11. Hardlyevr

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    already a done deal in Canada, the law they recently passed says that in 3 years all CB have to be hands free.

    As for activity on the 10 meter band, the 10-10 club would probably disagree with you. I think their daily net is on 28.38, or it used to be.
     
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