This is why you put more than 2 chains on a coil

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Cptn_Deudermont, Dec 14, 2017.

  1. Cptn_Deudermont

    Cptn_Deudermont Light Load Member

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    Accident Involving Two Semi Trucks Slows Traffic On I-71 N

    Granted, I don't know the circumstances of the incident, but it appears the coils snapped the chains and rolled forwards. I've heard too many stories of guys throwing 2 chains on a 50k coil and heading down the road. Looks like this guy did something similar.

    For those of you who are new to flatbed, remember this 1 golden rule:

    There is no such thing as too much securement.

    Throw that extra chain and/or strap. It's your load, it's your life.
     
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  3. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    If the coils coming off the trailer caused this accident, I would say your post was warranted. But it looks to me as if the coils came off the trailer because of the accident and your post points to the flatbed driver as doing shoddy work. You can’t tell if the securement was damaged by the collision, can you?
     
  4. Aradrox

    Aradrox Heavy Load Member

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    I was once told secure your load well Enough that God himself can pick your truck up turn it upside down and shake it all to hell... And the load would remain on the trailer.
     
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  5. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    I wanted to ask the same question but just seemed pointless.
     
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  6. Jumbo

    Jumbo Road Train Member

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    "Granted I don't know the circumstances" translated to plain English is "I have no idea what happened, so I am going to guess"
     
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  7. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    An object in motion stays in motion unless acted upon by an opposing force. A 50,000# coil on a truck doing 65 mph has the equivalent of over 7,000,000# of energy built up, and if that truck comes to an abrupt stop (as in it hits an immovable object), THAT is the amount of force the chains have to withstand in order to stop that coil and keep it in place on the trailer. You can't put 7,000,000# worth of chains on a coil in the space allowed. If you allow for more stopping distance, as in the driver applying the brakes to stop the truck in 300', well now you'd only need about 24,000# worth of chain holding the coil back to keep it from breaking free.

    That said, without knowing the cause or type of wreck or how abruptly the truck was brought to a stop, it is impossible to say whether there was sufficient securement because in a severe enough wreck even 2 or 3 times what is required by the regulations won't be enough to keep that coil in place.
     
  8. Espressolane

    Espressolane Road Train Member

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    I would venture a guess that the coils just off the trailer as seen in the video, says the securment was reasonably good for the load.
     
  9. Cptn_Deudermont

    Cptn_Deudermont Light Load Member

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    But I have been driving FB long enough so give a professional opinion that the coils were not secure enough based on the video.

    Securement being "reasonably good" and "very well secured" are two different things.

    I posted this because of being mocked when strapping down coils and putting a lot of securement on them. I seriously had guys laughing at me when I have 6 chains, and 3 4" straps on a 45K lb coil - telling me to throw two chains on it, and it's good.

    I stand by my previous statement of "There is no such thing as too much securement."

    It's not just your life you're risking. What type of comments would be made had there been a minivan under one of those coils? "Family of 6 dead due to..."

    I'm just saying, to those who think the minimum is enough -- it isn't.
     
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  10. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    I counted 4 coils. That puts them about 12k lbs each at the very most. 2 chains per coil is plenty, with an extra pulling back on the very front coil as added protection in case of stupid people.
     
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  11. Aradrox

    Aradrox Heavy Load Member

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    And why are you quoting my post? Did I make a judgement one way or the other? Nope
     
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