This may be redundant but I would like to know

Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by Ryan S2016, Oct 22, 2016.

  1. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    It is out of hand, the regulations are a patchwork from state to state, and are making it very hard on the little guy, especially those that are not in trucking at all. What this does is make the construction guys overload their half ton trucks to avoid the regulations.
     
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  3. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Ahh, that pesky law of unintended consequences...:rolleyes:
     
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  4. Slay

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    It is my understanding with the weight regulations that you have been talking about you have forgotten about crossing state lines. Once you cross the state line you will need the MC, DOT numbers. I am unclear about the CDL if you stay under the 26k even if the states you are traveling in do not require CDLs for intrastate work when you cross the state line and become interstate, then the Federal regulations kick in, ie HOS, Med card, CDL, IFTA taxes, plates etc. If someone has knowledge of this to the contrary please share as of right now I do not cross the state line for these reasons.
     
  5. Ryan S2016

    Ryan S2016 Medium Load Member

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    I actually have my own authority with DOT and MC numbers as well a valid Medical Card and keep my logs for HOS I don't qualify for IFTA and only pay my annual UCR fees along with other fees associated with my business but I do have the authority to run interstate commerce
     
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    Slay, in the OP's case he does have his DOT number, MC authority, and medical card. Yes, some states have more permissive rules for in-state only (intrastate) operations, and yes once you engage in interstate commerce the Federal regulations do apply. With regards to IFTA, apportioned plates, hours of service, cdl, etc they all have different triggers.

    In most states the trigger for a cdl does not matter if you are inter or intra state, usually it is any amount of hazmat requiring a placard, any single vehicle over 26,001 pound gross weight rating, or any combination of vehicles over 26,001 pounds gross weight rating with the trailer being more than 10,000 pounds gross weight.

    IFTA/IRP which are your apportioned registration plates and fuel tax decals are usually triggered at any weight over 26,001 pounds however Arizona and Montana have lower weights for apportioned registration and some states have lower weights for fuel tax reporting.

    Medical card, hours of service compliance, US DOT number, and MC # (operating authority) are usually triggered on a Federal level when you operate any commercial vehicle greater that 10,001 pounds in furtherance of interstate commerce. Hours of service compliance can also be a state issue even if you do not engage in interstate commerce. Some states have easier HOS rules, some have tougher HOS rules, but most follow the Federal guidelines even for in-state work. Same with medical cards, Pennsylvania for example enforces the 10,001 pound limit for interstate work but only requires a medical card for in-state work over 17,001 pounds.
     
  7. Ryan S2016

    Ryan S2016 Medium Load Member

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    Brian what I have put off is the NY HUT app basically because I am swamped with work and honestly I forgot but your comment just reminded me. I don't plan on coming north anytime soon though. Last week I got caught at Manheim in PA for an hour because the copier wouldn't work and they couldn't find my gate pass I was trying to beat the storm out but by the time all said and done I ended up driving back to VA in freezing rain and man was it cold temp on my truck said 37 but with the wind it was awful. I will stick around here in the south for a while it may be cold but not that cold. Stay safe up there my friend.
     
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