This might be an option

Funny I have family in Cleveland, end dumps are a type of dump trailer. Tractor and trailer, or straight fixed dump truck. Ones you see hauling fertilizer, gravel, sand etc.

In Detroit area it’s common to get anywhere from $22-35 an hour working with local construction companies. Getting at least 60 hours per week. Then of course operating salt trucks during the winter etc for the city government or what have you.

I currently haul fuel as a company driver but have intentions on owning and operating a dump some day soon. From various numbers I’ve ran on the speculative end there is indeed money in dump hauling. Especially if you can eliminate your dead head…I.E. fertilizer from Toledo to MI farms, and rock salt from Det back to OH.

 

Here's something to consider. Get your schooling and license, get a job in the type of work you want to do, learn the ropes, and see if you want to stay in that type of work, before committing to truck payments.
Generally, dump work slows down in the winter, plus as an O/O you are responsible for all costs associated with truck and trailer, including insurance. If you're going to do as Leviant0107 says, you'll be gone a day or two at a time.
I haul fuel, home every day, my truck, their trailer. Therefore I'm not responsible for any trailer costs, unless I damage it. I only pay bobtail insurance. It does slow down a bit occasionally, but there is usually work if you want it. I like having an extra day off now and then.
You will have trouble getting in without experience though.

 

My opinion, I just started local hauling fuel…probably pick up some experience part time here and there for the next few years dump trucking.

Get a truck. Get a 28’ dump trailer. Start running loads. When you find a lane in my opinion owner op isn’t difficult as hell especially if you have a decent level of intelligence and money management skills as it seems you do. I have a very specific lane I’m electing to go into so I shouldn’t have a problem making money. I don’t see an issue grossing 150k being home everyday and probably taking home 50-60 without breaking much of a sweat if I scale correctly (moving on to gravel trains etc)

You appear to be someone with a good level of scrutiny needed to achieve and not floundering. It’s of my opinion people most likely fail due to lack of business sense, not knowing how to crunch numbers, save, budget accordingly and making poor decisions in equipment etc

 

I’d suggest getting your license and start running locally. Then look into all your local markets.

 

local dumping has been going strong this winter Michigan stopped giving a #### I guess

 

Meh, I love hauling fuel and tanker in general. I also happen to prefer the feel of Mom and Pop local companies. If I were to ever change it’d be to haul chemical or cryo. Both of which can be extremely scrutinous on the driver so I’m not always sure but that kind of money is definitely available. The question is is it worth it to the individual. Peace of mind is not worth an extra $5 per hour when I’m going to touch 100k anyway and invest it into other things.

Air Products is starting off at 150k a year

My terminal for example has about 8-10 tractors and about 8 tank wagons. I have my boss (owner) and the safety directors number and they have mine and I never have a single issue a long with great health insurance. And great pay.

My buddy works for another local and he gets yearly reviews as far as pay. I get dollar per hour incentives based on what I produce in my pay period.

I’d hate being stuck OTR in something ### as well. A lot of it depends on personal preference…me personally I get a kick out of driving dangerous #### lol. And keeping up a little bit of physical to stay in shape. So fuel hauling works perfectly for me

 

I like fuel also, safety is a priority, not speed. I grossed $210k last year and didn't push hard at all. I even took 3 weeks off.

 

Good lawd. $210k?! As a company driver or O/O?