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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by TNSquire, Nov 29, 2019.

  1. TNSquire

    TNSquire Medium Load Member

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    The logging company launch has totally been eating my time but it's been great, all things considered
    The only hangup we have is you guessed it .. Trucking .
    It's like pulling teeth to find haulers.
    Looking for suggestions on how to proceed wisely ..
    I have a guy willing to lease on with us, if we come up with a couple log trailers.
    Alternatively, we're looking at buying a truck and trailer, and putting a driver in it.
    The demand in our area for log hauling is very high.
    It's possible to quickly have more work than we can possibly handle, either way we go
    My idea is get a cheap truck, run the wheels off it for a few months, then get something better.
    My partner thinks we should get something decent to begin with, even at a higher initial cost.
    We don't know a thing about leasing him on, so we're reluctant to do so.
    Just looking for sound insight please.
     
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  3. BigDog Trucker

    BigDog Trucker Heavy Load Member

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    How much working capital do you have? I'd get a less expensive rig and run it like you said. Then if business really takes off, put the money out on something nicer.
     
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  4. TNSquire

    TNSquire Medium Load Member

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    That's about where we're at... Boot strap budget to make this happen.
    We're trying hard to hold onto cash while we work this out, and get loads delivered that have been sitting for over a week.
    I'll bury one truck with what I'm able to produce, but it does create cash flow which I can then leverage into a second trailer, which would then come pretty close to meeting production volume.
    Since we're not a hack and slash type logging operation, our output isn't comparable in that aspect.
    We're contracted to leave a clean and a esthetically pleasing result.
    Think timber surgeons vs mad max war zone...
    Thanks for the insight big dog!
     
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  5. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Get a lawyer, get a lease contract created that meets the state/fmcsa requirements, at the same time seek out a couple trailers to lease and sign on a few owners.

    Finding drivers who won't destroy your truck is much more time consuming and costly.

    And you are adding to your risk of failing your customer by picking up any truck and throwing a driver in it blind.
     
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  6. BigDog Trucker

    BigDog Trucker Heavy Load Member

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    Right on, brother. If it were me, I would run equipment that I knew could get the job done for the next 6-12 months. In that time, get the kinks worked out on the business side and make sure theres a healthy market out there for your services. Maybe make some more business connections along the way that will serve to grow your enterprise. And then after thats done, pull the trigger on better/more capable/more expensive equipment. Rock solid contracts are also something to get in place, like ridgeline said.
     
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  7. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    Make sure you get a truck that can handle that logging off road.

    I would look very hard at the tractor. You would not want a swift used tractor in this line of work.
     
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    Tx Countryboy Road Train Member

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    Why swift tractors go off road all the time. Lol
     
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    baha Road Train Member

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    Those F/liners dont last but a few mo. in the woods with a driver put in them?
     
  10. Western flyer

    Western flyer Road Train Member

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    If your having to pull teeth to find haulers
    Then you're not paying enough for them to
    Pick up your logs.

    What's the going rate in your area
    And what are you paying.
    Pay someone enough and they'll have
    A truck and trailer there tomorrow morning.
     
  11. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    This is where my mind was going, too. There's plenty of capacity out there (in most areas) to attract equipment into your niche. Why aren't you?

    As far as leasing a driver on, do you have your DOT and all your insurance, safety and employee protocols in place? It's a fairly complex set of rules and requirements you have to meet before "leasing someone on".

    In your case, I'd see if a colleague (maybe in a non-competing area or market) would sit down with you over a cup of coffee or lunch and talk to you about the ins and outs of operating a trucking company. We run two trucks, and the amount of overhead and management time to do it right is amazing. The insurance costs are amazing. The amount of capital required is amazing. The costs of maintenance is amazing. If we had any choice, we would never run our own trucks.

    If you're just getting started, I would look at running my own trucks as a last resort, unless I already had extensive experience in trucking. Putting "a driver" in your truck and sending it off road would end up, guaranteed, with a torn up truck in short order.
     
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