Time to stand up drivers!

Discussion in 'Truckers Strike Forum' started by Timeforchange, Jul 12, 2018.

If drivers strike against these rail yards would you shut it down for a few days to make a change?

Poll closed Jul 22, 2018.
  1. Yes, join the strike

    10 vote(s)
    58.8%
  2. No, I'd have to pull out my box as usual and continue to be treated like s***

    9 vote(s)
    52.9%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. 389driver

    389driver Medium Load Member

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    Now that's funny right there, love it! :laughing-guffaw:
     
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  3. 8thnote

    8thnote Road Train Member

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    I don't think you know what the word 'customer' means. I have provided a definition below:

    Definition of customer
    : one that purchases a commodity or service
     
  4. IluvCATS

    IluvCATS Road Train Member

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    It’s time for revolution! Follow me.
     
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  5. 389driver

    389driver Medium Load Member

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    Are dogs invited? Because it's racism if their not.
     
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  6. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    Rail-yards and ports are not for everyone...I tried to pull containers from Chicago rail yards for 4 weeks. I did not know that I could gather so much anger in me. They tested my aggression levels.... I quit being afraid of popping someone in the chin or vice versa. But this is what you get when socialism (Unions) is allowed to run such places.
     
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  7. x1Heavy

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    I am going to get into this a little bit.

    A: Who is this We? Collectively we are not the same "We" as Truckers were 40 years ago, 60 or even 80 years ago. When I started back in the 80's I was being taught by truckers who served in the war effort and in the 50's potentially later. What they taught was most valuable and a knowledge that died when they passed on.

    I remember some of their teaching. But when I pass on however soon or later that's going to die with me excepting what is scattered around the Net for everyone to ignore. This We today is being diluted by Immgirants and a new generation of people who probably do not really understand just what they are getting into.

    In short you cannot herd this "WE" because it is like trying to herd a group of Cats. You follow me?


    B: I spent time in Seaport container and some rail containers too. Back in the 80's There is at that time no begging. The boxes are either there, coming to you or you are LATE. (You best not be late, ship or train leaves today at a certain time, your box has to be on it. Now who is doing the begging hmmm?

    Maybe this Begging you speak of is really a sign of impatience. Do you think that a 90 well car train can be unloaded in a hour at a yard with 200 boxes by the time you finish breakfast and show up bright and early to collect your box? Suppose 200 other truckers line up at your gate waiting. Or even a Ship with 12000 boxes to be unloaded in a day or so by 5 cranes. (And being reloaded actually believe it or not as in Baltimore with a group of more container ships gathered either above the US 50 Bay Bridge bullpen on the water waiting to unload or at anchor off the Capes near the Bay itself waiting to enter either Norfolk, Baltimore, Chester or the Delaware River ports.

    You are just you. They WILL get to you when they get to you and not a minute before. You just need to be there when you need to be ready to get it or deliver it to them PRIOR to the train or ship leaving.


    C: The Longshore Dock workers as I have seen and talked with in Baltimore show up at what I call a long house. There is a Boss inside that longhouse every shift. Everyone goes there and waits to see if their name is called and to do what work specifically for that shift. If they are GOOD Union Members and are productive, paying dues and causing NO trouble. They will have work pouring out of their ears. That's YOU and 200 others waiting at the gate for the precious train load of boxes

    Baltimore does both rail and ship. You wont BELIEVE what can be done in a day's work if you just leave them be to do it. Now... I an not pro union or against. They are what they are. What I have seen however is that they take 2 hour lunches while 400 trucks wait in inspection lanes prior to getting to the gate and get out that afternoon if they are lucky to find no defects in the box, chassis or tires, locks and paperwork. (And to top that off, sometimes I have to go to harrisburg and meet US CUSTOMS to clear that box for import to the customer.

    YOU are not the customer. You are just a DRIVER. WHAT YOU DO and everyone between you and Asia, Europe etc SERVES the customer sitting somewhere in this USA waiting for that box.

    WE ARE THE CUSTOMER!

    C: Yes and no. Re read part B. I leave another thought to part D

    Without us nothing moves, this entire country is crippled.

    D: If you stop the meat trucks from the meat triangle (Texas, Nebraska, Colorado etc and everything inside of those locations) you will find that NYC will be all out of meat within a week. Not even a precious Hoagie, Grinder or Sub is possible. Boy won't they love that! Foregetabout it.

    If you stop the fuel trucks (And the pipelines too... consider the Colonia's Line to the east coast) and railroad by the thousands of tank cars rolling out of Cushing, Kentucky, Hammond and south from Canada and many other sources and exporting of all sorts of fuels. We are dry in a week maybe. I know from my gas station experience that 30,000 gallons full on three tanks under ground (10K Gold, 10K silver, 10K regular unleaded) can and WILL be drained from thanksgiving eve through the day after thanksgiving. If we did not get three gas trucks from Curtis Bay Exxon Boston Street within the 4th day, our Station is DRY DRY DRY. No gas. 1970's out of gas problem all over again. If society has no gas to work? Well we have no society. period.



    E: I appreciate that you are a Company. It's American Awesome to do business for a living because we are a land of opportunity. MAYBE... JUST MAYBE... you might do better running as a regular Union Man inside that yard or as a Company driver and not stress about all of this stuff that you really cannot do much about anyway (Referring to that entire train of 200 boxes and 200 other O/O's waiting with you at gate for them.) Maybe you want to be the one driving that train waiting on THEM to unload YOU. Hows that? Will it unload faster maybe?



    F: You should have waited. I have waited and waited some more. Again that lift will get to me with that box when they get to it. It might be under three boxes 2 rows deep but they WILL get to it. My job is to stay in that yellow rectangle and WAIT especially NOT to move a inch until that lift comes with my Box. How hard is it to stay in a sandbox waiting?


    G: Well. Im sorry you had a malfunction and did what you did. It would have served you and the yard better to overcome that problem and wait a little bit longer and patiently. Find something to do. Listen to the radio, Play on the smart phone or read a book. Something to pass the time. It's not good to sit there and stew getting madder and madder. We are like fuses. Once we have had enough that's it.

    What do you think will happen when your box "If your "Fthis" arrives and you are gone and it happens to contain parts vital to keeping our Power generation going to keep our preciously fragile society lit and cooled in summer? We would have no society because you said Fthis.

    What would be better I think for you and your company is to get out of containers and into Medicine or something special. No more waiting (Much...)



    H: Hours? That's it? How about days and nights? or a week perhaps? You cannot be a good trucker if you cannot learn to wait especially for a very good reason yet unknown. Most companies consider drivers just drivers. They don't tell drivers that they are going to be waiting because of this, that and something else. No no no. Drivers are just dishwashers. Wait a while longer there will be more dishes.

    Remember I hae sat in many a painted box waiting on that lift to come to me with my box and it's load from the train or ship. It's part of trucking and I literally did not know any better at 21. So I take a smoke, nap a little waiting for that THUMP! Wake up get it locked and gone. Most of the time I have managed a good nap in those little 60's era Mack daycabs...not like those big giant plush palaces on airride you all run today. What's the problem? It's still the same THUMP when that box slams onto your chassis.


    I: I can flip your question and ask you to consider when is America enough? Or when is just existing or living enough? We have to scratch, hiss, struggle and fight for our daily bread. Again, if you don't like what you are doing. Find something else that makes YOU HAPPY. Once we did THAT making YOU do something that YOU WANT TO BECAUSE IT MAKES YOU HAPPY.. then we are ALL HAPPY.


    J: Truckers have yelled strike, shutdown or whatever for decades. Remember the famous 1.98 fuel price days? Perhaps? It became 2.01 the following week and no one did a #### thing. Why? because there is always a percentage who are HUNGRY and will roll when YOU WONT ROLL. Maybe the Brokers will find those who will take your load and your money while you sit by yourself like a child who wont share in recess or do Teamwork.



    Stand with who?

    Im sorry, where is my box of furniture I ordered last month at the store? If I have to wait longer so be it.

    Follow me so far?
     
  8. Atlanta trucker

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    Freedom sure does suck doesnt it ?

    Move to North Korea or Veneasuala where they take care of you like a good careing Marxist socialist government should !!! Workers of the world unite !!!
     
  9. Hurst

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    First,.. as an O/O,.. I provide a service that my customers pay for. My reputation and future ability to serve my customers depends on my ability to provide a reliable and problem free experience.

    Seems to me your problem is with the rail yard and you some how feel the entire operation, including the rail yard, revolves around you and your truck.

    Personally there is a reason containers dont pay very much and it usually reflects back to the quality of trucks and drivers who choose to move them.

    Your lack of professional etiquette is what got you banned. What you failed to realize is that trucking is a dog eat dog, service oriented, cut throat business. You are obviously not significant or vital to their operation and they let you go.

    Instead of fuming and pointing fingers. The professional and mature thing to do here is to evaluate and analyze where you went wrong and make corrective steps to better yourself.

    Hurst
     
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    Hurst Registered Member

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    LOL Spoken like a true Liberal.

    Hurst
     
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  11. Timeforchange

    Timeforchange Bobtail Member

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    That is the problem right there, yes there may be plenty of drivers that are willing to come into these rails and sit for hrs waiting for a lift while the whole place is on an hr break, or wait for hrs to go get a chassis w no breaks and 2 flat tires repaired that a spotter knowingly dragged over to a spot! My time is worth something! If these rails didn't keep us sitting for hrs while they take their breaks how many more moves could we accomplish in a week, how many nights would we make it home for dinner with our families like these fair operators do?
     
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