I understand! What may happen in the future is that as 150 MHZ and 450 MHZ is vacated, it will make ROOM for, perhaps, several trucking channels up there! With an efficient antenna, especially up on top of a truck (VHF can be "cophased" tho, personally, I doubt the benefits), you could GET the 30, 40, 50 miles AND, if they permitted it, depending on the rules implemented for it, use those 25, 50, even 100 watt radios to GET those miles! There are PLENTY of advantages! But would people self-govern it so it didn't become just as messed up as 11 Meters is now? Would you have the "cowboys", the "I'm this BIG radio operator that has got to stomp on the other guy in order to feel "BIG"! Would you have the BIG AMP guys who, instead of wanting to run 25-100 watts, would run 500 watts VHF (which is NOT a good idea for one's family jewels at that frequency and so close (ahem)!! LMAO!~*I* wouldn't run that for NO man!
Not on VHF!
IF the trucking industry wants this, maybe it is time for some of the trucking lobbies and associations to start writing letters to get it.
Quiet, clean VHF FM would make 11 Meters seem quaint!!!!!! (Isn't VHF what is used for the Ice Road Truckers, and look what distances THEY cover!
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See there you go you are actually capable of making a useful post.
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Isn't VHF the marine section? Just wondering because it would not be good to get into that section. I used to run a large lake in northern Minnesota Lake of the Woods. We ran the marine band in our boats. That was a huge antenna that we ran. Yes they would REACH out and make a CB look like a kids toy. 30+ miles was nothing on marine band. alot of performance in a small package for a radio but the antenna would not work well on a truck. Would be hitting birds going down the road and the antenna would only last for one overpass. We have tried some of the more compact antennas available but they just did not seem to work all that well.
I wish CB radios or even the exports had some of the features the marine radios have. The best was the scan function and on some of them you could control the radio from the mic. This was nice because you could put the radio behind the dash of the boat and just have the mic out in the open. Never needed to actually touch the radio.
I would absolutly love to see that kind of tech in a CB radio.
Another was the business band. It is hardly used anymore and you could get huge performance with a tiny 4 or 5 inch antenna. I am talking about 20-30 miles easily. I can pickup these radios for a dime a dozen around here. -
It's the business band that I'm talking about. Over time, these bands, and some of the police VHF/UHF bands are being vacated. They are migrating to into the 800/900 MHZ range (near the cellphones). The TV bands have gone digital, vacating frequencies such as 70,80 MHZ. This could leave room for the trucking industry to petition for some of those bands!

AS you mentioned, think of the possibilities of updated VHF operations such a reliable scan feature. Maybe a repeater-based, computer terminal system where you could stay in touch with dispatch AND your customers to organize docking times or reserve your spot at the dock! IOW, your OWN, PRIVATE email system---even use your computer as your VHF voice radio! Hams (and other industries have that and more (one function similar to the above is Echolink where you can attach a mike, some software, and your computer serves as your radio.) Sure, I am only imagining this now, but.........who knows what could happen. This would certainly have support from drivers, companies and, maybe, FCC would see the advantages of going away from noisy, 'hashy", HF CB that cannot reliably support these functions. Some companies do have commercial VHF. This should be something drivers could obtain reliably and cheaply, not some expensive Motorola stuff like the established companies. *Somebody* ought to start working on something like this!
MURS is already ON 150 MHZ (Marine is 156 megs), so as these frequencies empty out, it ain't impossible! 150-154 MHZ wouldn't interfere with Marine.
It would be the answer to everything the trucking industry could ask for.
( SEE, I'm not negative about everything! LOL!)
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One of the dumest FCC rules does not allow MURS and another service to be built into the same radio I SAY PUT MURS INTO EVERY 40 ch cb set !
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Probably the dumbest thing the FCC ever did was move a short range service (CB) from UHF to HF where a 4 watt signal can span the world.
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Supposidly the move from the 460-470 mHz UHF band to the 27 mHz HF band was done because it was more practical and affordable (at the time) to make a radio that would work on the 11 meter band.
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I'm never going to post something I cant feel i can back up. That rule/debate do you have in mind ? NOW If you don't like what I have so say that another matter you have the right to not agree with me ... untill washington finalizes the internet rules they we will both be silent ....
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CORRECT in 1958 UHF CB was costly with a very short range.
11 meters was not HAM only and could be removed or shaired
MY PROBLEM IS ......
We have had MURS for more than 10 years and the FCC DOES NOT ALLOW class "D" cb radios to be built with MURS installed this needs to be changed but getting the FCC to do things is the problem ....
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*I* wouldn't run that for NO man!
Not on VHF!