TMC Drivers

Once your 14 hrs is up, you can still work as long as you want. You just can't DRIVE. That is the key point here. You can unload/load the trailer, or whatever else may consitute "work", you just can't drive again until after a 10 hr break. There is more to working as a truck driver than just driving.

 

From the FMCSA website:

§395.3 Maximum driving time for property-carrying vehicles.
Subject to the exceptions and exemptions in §395.1:
(a) No motor carrier shall permit or require any driver used by it to drive a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle, nor shall any such driver drive a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle:
(a)(1) More than 11 cumulative hours following 10 consecutive hours off-duty; or
(a)(2) For any period after the end of the 14th hour after coming on duty following 10 consecutive hours off duty, except when a property-carrying driver complies with the provisions of §395.1(o) or §395.1(e)(2).
(b) No motor carrier shall permit or require a driver of a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle to drive, nor shall any driver drive a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle, regardless of the number of motor carriers using the driver's services, for any period after '
(b)(1) Having been on duty 60 hours in any period of 7 consecutive days if the employing motor carrier does not operate commercial motor vehicles every day of the week; or
(b)(2) Having been on duty 70 hours in any period of 8 consecutive days if the employing motor carrier operates commercial motor vehicles every day of the week.
(c)(1) Any period of 7 consecutive days may end with the beginning of any off-duty period of 34 or more consecutive hours; or
(c)(2) Any period of 8 consecutive days may end with the beginning of any off-duty period of 34 or more consecutive hours.

As you can see, the HOS rules simply state that you can not drive, it says nothing about working.

 

So your saying you would have to spend the next 10 hours at the dock you just unloaded from if you go over your 14 hour clock? The way I understand it, you would not be able to move your truck if you work any more than a 14 hour day.

 

No, you wouldn't park in their dock for 10 hours, they will probably need it at some point. You would probably pull out and park on the side out of the way, after first checking with security and making sure it would be ok.

I don't know how true this is, but I've also been told that if your hours run out while sitting at a dock, you can still drive to a safe location to park as long as it is still within the city limits.

 

when you are out of hours,you are out of hours. there is no grace period to let you get somewhere to park & take your break.

 

Did you get dropped on your head????

11 hours driving MAXIMUM....Total day (including the 11 hours of driving) 14 hours....TOTAL!

You'd better do some reading in the little green book!

You are a student...You have a LOT to learn!
I'd love to be at the scales when you try to explain THAT to the DOT....LOL!

He'll listen and then he'll say...Sign here!

 

Um....DUH....I posted the friggen page from the little green book above and it says exactly as I've been telling y'all. It says nothing about working, only that you can't drive, after 14 hours (or 11, if that comes first).

As far as the driving to a place to park, I said I wasn't sure how true that was, and although it sounds good, seemed a little far-fetched to me. But that is what I had been told. If you want to try it, that is up to you.

 

Also from the little green book:

395.2 Definitions

On duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:
(1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;
(2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;
(3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;
(4) All time, other than driving time, in or upon any commercial motor vehicle except time spent resting in a sleeper berth;
(5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;
(6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle;
(7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, in order to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post-accident, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapter when directed by a motor carrier;
(8.) Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of, a motor carrier; and
(9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.
Seven consecutive days means the period of 7 consecutive days beginning on any day at the time designated by the motor carrier for a 24-hour period.

 

Very True.

 

And none of that mentions the 14 hour rule. You can work as long as is necessary, you just can't drive beyond the legal hours of service. Why is everyone having such a hard time separating working and driving? Yes, driving is work, but not all work is driving. It's really not a hard concept to understand!