Thanks Turbo. For helping get the point across. I gave tmc 110% and can prove the test results, I posted about earlier, my biggest issue is honesty and integrity, I have taught my children to always be honest no matter what. For one thing you never have to back away from the truth. My point with tmc is they are the ones DEMANDING honesty fom us thru out the 12 day orientation, and if you gonna tell the NEW drivers that this will happen and that wont happen,then just do it. I had an excellent trainer, I met some very good people who work for tmc, who I have respect for. I am not a young gullible kid, I am middle aged, and dont have the time or patience to put up with dishonesty. I was not brought up that way, nor will I ever change. You know I have NEVER had to apologize for being honest. I loved driving that truck, its got into my blood, I miss it. And I am gonna give it another shot.
TMC Transportation, Inc. - Des Moines, Ia.
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Don't be afraid to ask the membership for ideas and advice. We've got a great bunch, who will tell it like it is, and roll up their sleeves to find the best answer to any question or issue that comes up.
One piece of advice I would offer that you do ASAP, would be to request a free copy of your DAC report, to see what TMC entered in there for a reference. This will allow you to begin to head of any problems if there are any in the report.
If you do not know the process for obtaining your report, here's the scoop;
Requesting Your USIS Consumer Services Report
You are allowed to receive a free copy of your report directly from USIS Consumer Services, Inc. under the following conditions:
A person or company has taken adverse action against you because of information in your USIS Consumer Services Report. This means that if you have been denied employment due to information cited by USIS Consumer Services, you are entitled to a free report within 60 days after you have been declined employment;
At any time you feel that information included in your file contains inaccurate information supplied by a company;
If you are unemployed but expect to apply for employment within 60 days;
After a challenge has been submitted and information has been corrected;
A new law that went into effect nationwide on September of 2005, now requires that all consumers will be entitled to one free disclosure every 12 months upon request from each nationwide credit bureau and from nationwide specialty consumer reporting agencies (USIS is a specialty consumer reporting agency).
If you do not meet any of those required circumstances for requesting a free report, you must include $9.50 with your request for a copy of your report. It is not stated what acceptable methods of payment are acceptable, so I advise anyone to call prior to sending the request to verify if a personal check is okay prior to mailing your request.
You will be required to provide your full name, mailing address, social security number, the name of the company that declined your application (if applicable as a reason for your request), and a legible photocopy of your driver's license and social security card for identification purposes. If you are seeking a free report, be sure to cite the reason that you are entitled to a free report. Mail your request to the following address;
USIS Commercial Services
Consumer Consulting Department
P. O. Box 33181
Tulsa, OK 74153
You can call them with any questions that you have at;
hey turbo, it seems like you have done some serious research on tmc and know what you are talking about. here's my problem; i was due to start there on monday but when my roadtest for cdl was over friday, dmv was closed and i cannot get my actual license until tuesday. i left two messages on their weekend "hotline" asking them to advise me on whether to come on to orientation or not. ture to form, no one has called so i decided not to go. i cannot afford to spend gas money to go ther just to be told i would have to go back home and get my license. based on your experience, should i take this time and go somewhere else, (i'm on mavericks waiting list) or should i tough it out? man i just don't want to make a huge mistake. any advice would be appreciated.
Turbo - oh how so very well you have responded to anomeley. I have been following his remarks for quite some time now and after the last one I almost responded but decided not to since I am new to trucking and also needed to calm down some. And what could a newbie really have to offer since I have no personal experiences...
But I an NOT new to working and life in general...
Seems that anomeley spends an awful lot of time defending TMC and in particular blaming the driver for any and all problems....
I can imagine this happening when calling from the road for help and getting someone like him for your support - after 3 hours of listening to what YOU did wrong how much further along would you be in resolving the problem?
I know one organization I won't be applying to once I complete my CDL schooling....
Thanks so much for your input..
I am to grad. this week cdl and have high hopes for TMC, but will someone please tell me if they (TMC) DO or DON'T HAVE GOOD TRAINERS there??? I feel confident and have heard enough good things to put up with the standard b...s & lil white lies. I just want to know that during the otr training time, MORE THAN LIKELY I WILL GET A GOOD (TMC) TRAINER. Turbo; I have read alot of your wisdom to various probl/solutions... what's your take on this one?
Yeah...you definitely need your CDL to start training, so get that in your back pocket and then you're ready to get started.
Maverick has a waiting list? Think about what that means. Not that it's any reflection on you or anyone else at all, but instead it means that they are not in a state of desperation for new drivers and have to find slots for them. That also indicates that more people are hanging in there with them.
Are they giving you any idea how long you may have to wait?
Not put in or yet gotten the pre hire. I do have a great past performance for work & DAC (clean, nada). I really want to get on with Crete but they want 3-5 mos. exper. which I want to get with TMC or (God forbid)... Werner-which the e-log does not appeal to me! for start up co. or if TMC continues to be good, stay with them. Or should I just say to heck with the first 6 mos. and go with Swift or the likes???
A company that has a higher than normal amount of newbies is going to have some issues that are not going to be a part of one that has a staff of experienced drivers. For sure, newbies will present more difficulties to them, because they will need guidance at a much higher rate than those that have been in the trenches for years. Everyone has to learn.
In my humble opinion, the people that sit behind desks should understand this, know how to deal with it, and never forget for one second that each circumstance and person they deal with is unique. What happens sometimes though is that some of those people behind those desks forget this over time, and all drivers become nothing but a hassle to them. Never mind that they are there to support the driver and that it comes with the job.
I've been on both sides of those desks. When I started many years ago in management, I was not good at it. I had no patience. I found myself adopting attitudes much like we saw offered in this thread. My boss, a very wise man, sat me down one day and over a period of two hours, gave me some wisdom on how to deal with people and more importantly...drivers. And he was the ace. Nothing rattled that man.
Over time, I practiced the things he taught me, and by the time I was running my own company, I was much like he was. Calm, cool, and collected on the surface, even if I was seething inside. It's not great for the blood pressure, but it's better than being a total jerk.
Helping people through a situation is far more productive than to bash them for their ignorance, be it privately or publicly, and that goes for anything at all in life. It goes double for trucking.
Just as there are those people that don't grasp driving a truck, and all that comes with it as easily as others, there are those people who are hired to supervise or assist drivers without all of the skills they should have to do their jobs as well. Former drivers as a general rule, make the best driver supervisors.
Way back when...I was a cop for three years. I recognized early on that I was not cut out for the job. It made me an extremely negative person. After three years, I changed gears and went into trucking, a secondary family profession, and that has agreed with me for well over two decades.
After eight years on the road, I spent several years bouncing between the desk and the truck. During the years that I ran the two companies I involved myself in, and when things got under my skin, I went out into the yard, fired up my truck, and went trucking for part of the day. It's tough in a trucking company office, no matter how small or how large a company it might be.
I lost most of my hair, and what is left has turned white as snow. So while I have the understanding that it's easy to adopt a bad taste in one's mouth when dealing with people, I also know what it's like out here too.
It would be great if all drivers has an opportunity to spend a week or two in the offices of their company to get a glimpse into what that side of the world is like, and visa/versa for those who supervise them and have no idea what it's like out there from a driver's perspective.
When I had a driver working for me that I felt was overly critical of the office staff, I'd pay him his normal wages and bring him in for a week and each day he would assist a different section of the staff, and then we'd re-discuss it at the end of the week. Never did that strategy fail to change an outlook.
Most couldn't wait to get back in the truck by the end of that week too.
It's a little harder to do it the other way around, so I instead gauged personality for those placed in charge of dealing with drivers. I don't think that is the case with many companies out here. Computer skills are what they seek, and that's just a small part of the job.
I'd rather teach someone to peck on a computer, than to spend time overhauling their personality.
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