I don't have my dcl's, but this company we are going with said I can ride along as a passenger. They will hold $ out for me riding for insurance, but no where has anyone we talked to said it was illegal for me to ride. yes if i drove of course, which is what i believe you are saying. I posted in a previous post that if it all turned out good in a year i would get my CDL's but this company doesn't take teams. So all I see is a ride along, reading maps, talking, having someone to cuddle with in the sleeper who he knows doesn't have any std's, companionship, should I go on? and your right he has not posted but would he be going into something like this if he didn't want to, if we had not already talked about it for 21 years? nope, he would have just went and got another stressful factory job.
TMC Transportation, Inc. - Des Moines, Ia.
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Wow.. I can't believe i'm reading this, i think i just got a little stupider.
Alot of what you are saying is just plain false. When you are "Training" with TMC you are given a "Sheet" that you can chose to fill out, if you wish, where you would calculate each load you and your trainer do. You do it per mile at 39CPM, or per percentage, at 23% (Starting out, it goes up fast) and guess what? If you do that worksheet, you'll clearly see that percentage pays more. But, that would've meant you'd have to give someone a chance to do that, which you clearly have not.
Percentage with TMC i averaged 41-55CPM. Some loads even paid as high as 90CPM to the driver (Oversized stuff). I'm sorry to say that, starting out, you won't do much better than TMC. Yes, they do get you home EVERY WEEKEND. Unless you chose to stay out.
As far as the person saying TMC doesn't operate top of the line equipment, dude, listen to yourself. Your calling them out simply because they don't have refrigerators in them? LOL. As far as not using power inverters, or CB's I had all that in my truck, ofcourse, they diddn't know that.
Uhm. What else.. Oh, the 3 month period has nothing to do with insurance, TMC is self insured, the 3 months is to ensure that your husband is "in the swing" of doing things before they allow him to take an additional distraction along with him, personally i understand that. The 6 weeks, isnt an entire 6 weeks, he will be home every weekend during that 6 weeks (As long as he requests a regional driver, and not long-haul). The fact is, alot of you don't have clear expectations of what trucking is supposed to be, you are sitting here crying about the most unbelievable things, and most of them don't make a bit of sense. Your percentage doesn't change "mid-run" so whoever told you that is false, at least on TMC's behalf, i'm not sure about other companies.
Now, i'll be the first to Admit that TMC has plenty of downfalls.. But you sitting here crying becuase you have to wait 3 months to go along with your husband, and totally ruling out a good company to work for because of it is just simply rediculous. But, it's your life. I guess you never know until you try, and like i said before, you weren't willing to do that. -
This is a statement of how i was dismissing all bad about tmc. Then when a recruiter comes and tells you that you can bring home $1000 to $1800 a week starting out as a newbie you would have to be completely stupid if you totally believed them when not anyone around can touch that. its very unrealistic. But again telling what happened.
what is the big deal that my husband and i sat down and decided , toghether what we would do next. and since we had talked about doing this together for 21 years then why not do it. if we couldn't be together then we weren't going to. trucking is not the only thing in this world he could get a job doing. this decision was simple between me and him. again i get attacked for it?????[/quote]
Here i'm telling what the recruiter said and what the school said, again whats the big deal, why attacking me?
Here i'm saying this is not what we wanted! it was to long! and they were the only company that had that stupid rule. this is not what we talked about doing . remember, we do it together or not at all????? that is our own person decision and i should not be attacked for it!
HE calls the office! NOT me!
I read this all through the thread, but yet i never told him about it...keep reading....
telling you that my husband is clean???? and the fact he called the office to ask for a reason why and see if we could not work it out, oh and here didn't i say "OF COURSE i UNDERSTAnD THE 6 WEEKS OF TRAINING???? BUT YET I'M BEING ATTACKED?????
just a fact, he called the office and i told how she talked to him. do we not deserve to spoken to correctally and not like we are crap????? but yet i'm attacked for letting other's know how their staff talks to you??????
remember we have a deal, our God given right! but i'm totally attacked over and over because my husband and i don't want to be seperated???
Again our rules on doing this thing "trucking". i'm just making a statement on what my husband said to the office personal.
i want to know why it was any of her business. now think for a moment if you were speaking to someone and you were being very nice even tho the other person kept talking to you like your trash, aren't you going to get mad at some point? but again just me telling what happened and being attacked!
ok, so now he does the normal thing, anyone else would do it to if they were being talked to like that. i again just reported what happened and was attacked!
here i'm telling about my experience at home, not with him while he is talking to tmc but hours away at my own home! i'm telling what was in the email another company sent me, yes it does say she sent me an email as well with a few facts, which should say "with a few facts. here i only told one!
again just telling you what went on with my husband and his trainer giving him a real company instead of one they get a kick back from. and me being nice and saying once i reseach the company i would let you know, hum don't think i want to let anything else out!
again just wanting to let people know and then how i felt once i realized how they treated my husband, and yes they lied, the recuriter lied about how much money a first year 'student' would make. and if you do get in a company you are stuck till you can get out that has been said over and over on this board! but again , my business i'm sharing with you and i'm being attacked over it???
here its me just being nice and thanking everyone who posted over 30 pages on the bad stuff about tmc and then something i read actually happened before we signed on. then a sentence about something i "wonder' about! i've been on alot of boards in my life but never have i ever had to defend myself for what me and my husband's own personal wishes are, or defend myself for posting the same thing that has already been posted before, or for sharing an experience??????? i'm sure i can find another place for information. oh wait, i don't need to do that now, he signed with the "other' company and will start his first year at $53,500 (by miles) i can ride for FREE, the people are nice as i talked to them today for hours. I can go to orintation if i want, which is only 2 days and a few hours from my home. Then when he goes on the road with his trainer for 2 weeks or less depending on when the trainer thinks he's got it i will survive, and i'm so touch how you all are so worried that i'm crying.then i can ride immediatally and the fact we don't want to come home but maybe monthly they really liked that! so we found all we want, what we sat down and decided together, and guess what? it wasn't tmc that filled our order!!!!
And ECKZ i have no idea what you are talking about through most of that post?????
not alot of nice people here. TMC was rude and so far this board is rude! -
Dear lord, help us all.
Grant me the serenity ... I read about the first half of your post and got bitter, becuase you think we're attacking you. We're defending a company that you are not knowledgeable on, not attacking you.
6 Weeks is for Training. It's not a rule. Heaven forbid he drives for a company that doesn't expect him to be trained first? I don't honestly understand what your expectations are. I have a wife, i love her to death, and yes, she rides with me when we can get one of our mothers to watch the kids for a week or two.. But i would never expect a company to accommodate that during TRAINING.
Those pay stubs, hate to break it to ya, are 100% real. I used my own pay-stubs for recruiting visits, that were a little less than 1800, but they ranged from 1000, to 1300 per week. And this was during my first year. You are making accusations without proof, that's your biggest problem. Until you have something that tells you those pay-stubs aren't real, then you really have nothing to go on - And yet here you are, wasting everyones time. Half of the "Bad things" about TMC you were "Dismissing" were mis-informed people, or people who had no idea what to expect from trucking. You act as if TMC Screwed you over in some way, because they have stringent policies, well i am politely disagreeing with you, not attacking.
What you need to understand is that there are alot of drivers breaking into the industry that are excited about driving for TMC. And then they come here and see a bunch of crap from people that isn't even true, or shouldn't even concern them -- I almost listened to all this crap on here, and i chose not too, and like i said in my previous posts, i couldn't be happier. I don't want to drive if it's not for TMC.
Um. He asked if you could go with him to orientation. That was the first question that came to my mind when reading this post. It's 2 weeks, why would you even bother? It's a training session, there is alot for him to do during this 2 weeks, cuddling with his wife is not something he'd have time for, unfortunately. Forgive me for being so bold, but, well.. It was a stupid question. You have been together for over 21 years, and you're freaking out about 2 weeks apart. Give me a break. I don't blame the recruiter, or whoever you talked to, because you don't seem like you get a hint, and i'm getting frustrated with this myself, i can only imagine if i was forced to talk to you on the phone!Basically, what you're saying here is that TMC did not equal up to what you were looking for in a trucking company. That's 100% fine, dear. It's your god given right to chose a carrier that suits both you, and your husband. You are being DISAGREED WITH because that is not what this forum is for. This is not what i would call a "Bad experience" with a company, this is what i would call "A company that doesn't suit you". So why are you here attempting to give them a bad name, simply because they have rules that you don't want to adhere to?
Here, let me disagree with you some more. The Red is me, and my response to these so called "facts".
Here is a list of facts (Facts, are they?) about first getting into trucking..
*never go with %, no matter what they tell you first year driver's will get the longest empty travels to pick up a load that isn't paying crap. he could have a load 10 miles away worth a huge payday and they give it to someone who has been there longer who might have to drive 300 miles to get it.
TMC Doesn't operate this way. Think about it, would that really be economical, given that fuel prices are upwards of 2.99 per gallon? To have someone drive 300 miles to pickup a load, while they have a driver that is 50-60 miles away? Hm. I don't see any company that operates that way staying around very long.
when they tell you what your % is going to be for the load it could change while you are taking it there and then not get paid what you thought you would.it has something to do with them renegotiating with the customer's.
This is also false, and, well.. Simply put, illegal. Your percentage stays the same, snapshot to snapshot (Every Month) if your points go up at the end of that snapshot, so does your percentage (to 32%) sadly, if they go down, so does your percentage, but never does your percentage change abruptly.
see i don't know crap about trucking so what i have found out will make more sense to someone who is driving or did drive.
*if you go by millage you will have a better chance if you can find a company that will pay you decent "per mile". most are in the low 20's.
This is correct, most are in the low 20's. Even mileage based pay at TMC is about the best you're going to get starting out. 39CPM is what they pay, however over the last 2 years on percentage i have averaged from 40-55CPM. And some loads are 90CPM+
*they say they will get you home on the weekends but they don't
TMC Doesget you home every weekend (Providing you live within the orange area on their coverage map) *basically your a pee on till you have been with them for 3 years without any accident's ...etc. and that is only if they are a good company.
This can be true for some companies. I never felt this way at TMC. In all honesty, there are some drivers that have, however you have to "Consider the source" of who you're hearing things from. If someone isn't delivering on time, screwing around alot, has had alot of problems then the fleet managers aren't going to waste a bunch of time taking good care of them when they aren't getting the same in return. This isn't really relevant here, but alot of drivers i've talked to bring things upon themselves.
so if you think you can go into trucking and make big bucks at first , you can't.
I'll definitely disagree with you there. I made 64,000 dollars during my first year with TMC. My second year was over 60k as well.
it doesn't matter if your willing to run a month before going home they don't care. and finding those companies that are an exception is almost impossible on the net, talking to companies or even your school. on the net you never know if to believe it or not. if its a bad post on a company you think it may have not been the company's fault, if its a good post then you my believe its someone from the company trying to do damage control.
This is true. But, i was an actual driver for TMC. If you check my recent posts I've been honest about both the good, and the bad. I don't know how far into this thread you checked, but go ahead and look if you haven't already, I've also given out my name, and my email address on here, and told anybody that decides to go with TMC because of my posts on here is not asked to place my name on anything, in other words i am here for free, trying to help those that are misinformed and potentially crushed by the bogus posts here and forced to change their mind for, what could be the worst.
I don't understand where they lied to you, maybe i missed something? In any event, while off the subject, let me explain to you what TMC did for me in my time of need.
I was going through a rough time, My grandmother who lives 4 hours away is dying of Cancer, my Mother isn't doing so hot, either. I got a bogus ticket for apparently running a stop-sign that diddn't exsist, and my wife was having a hard time juggling things at home.
I casually explained this to my fleet manager, (6 months into my career). He got on the phone with human resources and they allowed me to quit, indefinitely WITHOUT CHARGE. The one condition was that i cleaned out my truck before i left it, which is understandable. They Continued to pay my school loan for the 1.5 months that i was off, along with my insurance (Which is blue cross, blue shield), and when i was ready to return they had a car waiting to take me to the Indy yard and got me into a truck the following Monday, and back on the road again.
Sorry, I can't think of a company that would do that, or send someone to get your truck, a car to take you to the airport where a plane ticket was waiting to fly you home because your wife went into labor. But, make your own decisions. Good luck with everything, Although i disagree with the reason(S) that you're here I wish you, and your husband the best of luck, and may the lord bless both of you out there. It can get rough.
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what it boils down to is i've read to much bad about tmc (and experienced) to risk going with them when i found a company that have basically the same trucks w/o anything in them. you have to supply your own cb, tv, etc... but i don't mind. the rest that was left if you compare it to tmc its like heaven. still you don't understand or the other guy who was the one attacking me the night before last because i wanted to go with my husband and he wanted me to go. its more than a job for us. no one seems to understand that.
i've had it. This is going to one of those boards you talk about on other's boards about how people have no understanding of what your trying to say and like lamar, that was a pure total ATTACK! and stupid! go ahead and give me an infraction. because it's ok for them to attack me. i won't come back and defend our decision anymore.
WE FOUND THE COMPANIES WE WANTED. I'M HAPPY, I COULD CARE LESS IF YOU ARE.
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Well, theres your problem there. You didn't "Experience" a thing. You never even hired on with them, and here you are conedeming them as if they screwed you over in some way, just because you didn't want to work for them. Pretty big waste of time, if you ask me. Just because something isn't right for you and your husband doesn't make it bad. I'm sorry that you were raised to believe that, however others do not and you shouldn't come here posting this crap when you don't even know the reality of it. So, you know.. We'll just chalk your posts up as more rants, and bs from people who don't have a clue what they're talking about, and yet insist that the world sit quietly and listen, because that's clearly what you expected here.
Good luck.
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I went through TMC orientation, then out on the road with a trainer (my trainer sucked, and liked to freak out if I missed a gear, which made me much more nervous, but thats another story. I could have gotten another trainer), but I had to come home to a sick four year old and a house that was falling apart without me there. I'm looking at going back into Insurance sales or a regional driving job from SoCal. Even with my non-experienced self, I have managed to scrape up a few co's that will put me on regional, having me home every week.
TMC is a good company. You can make a LOT of money there, if you are willing to run hard. Tarping, chaining, strapping, etc really takes it out of you, especially when it's hot outside. Then you have to get in the truck and run for another four hours or so to get near your next destination. If you cant stay awake, you cant make any money (and you cant stay alive for that matter), and I'm here to tell ya, when your tired, your 13spd shifting skills go right out the window! hahaha!!! -
Nice post, brother. But i need to point out that when you said "i'm here to tell ya" you sounded just like austin.. lmao =)
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