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Been dumping frameless for ten years with a round bottom and springs and no one at my company ever dumped their tractor bags when they dump.

 

I’ve only pulled a 24 ft frame dump and that’s been years ago. I’m sure the company I’m leasing to will have someone for me to follow for a while. My thinking has always been the more people you learn from the more knowledge one can gain. So any pointers you care to share I’m all ears!! I.E tidbits on dumping,keeping your load from freezing, do you add anything to your hydraulic fluid in the winter so it ain’t so thick?? Anything else that you think a guy should know?? Thanks for whatever you share

 

The main thing is don't let any one bully you into doing something you don't feel safe about. If they say well all the other drivers do it remind them that's those other drivers. Make the loader man load you correctly! Use common sense take your time. Good luck

 

As long as my wife doesn’t count I don’t think I have to worry about being bullied. We never really worried about how the trailer was loaded when I was local but I guess I better be a quick study hooking on to a frameless

 

If you are going to pull a frameless, one thing you need to be aware of is that fact that if your loading solids,sand rock concrete,clay,gravel, you do not put any in the head of that trailer no closer than 8 or ten feet. C and D (trash) is ok to fill. Also if you keep the height of the load 6 inches below the top of the trailer walls, you don't have to tarp it. C and D is the exception. When the trailer goes up, you keep your eyes on the hydraulic piston through your back window if you have one. if that shaft is not straight up and is tilted somewhat you may need to drop the trailer and get more level. Always climb up on the front of the trailer and see where they are loading when you are getting loaded by someone you don't know who may not know how to load a frameless. Another thing
when dumping a frameless, you pull your trailer brakes and keep your tractor brakes pushed in so that the tractor can walk back with the rising trailer. It works like a an inch worm.
When you get stuck in sand or soft mud after dumping. you can use the frameless characteristics to pull you out of the mud. just like and inch worm. That's a lesson to learn after you get good at dumping without tipping over.

 

If you are an owner operator, and your pulling a frameless, you will have to block your 5thwheel from pivotiing. I would think the company shop you are leasing from may have a block kit to put on your fifth wheel.

 

I pull a 40 ft. frameless. I haul aggregates, lime, fertilizer, grain scrap. I've been doing it for over 25 yrs been driving 37. You're going to have to have a kit or build blocks your 5th wheel so it doesn't rock when you're dumping.
I dump my trailer bags and in some instances my trucks too, it depends on the situation and what I'm dumping. I lock the trailer down and let the tractor go back but at about the 4th stage I reverse it and let the trailer come to the truck to keep from bending the tailgate.
I've always loaded the whole trailer even when I didn't have a liner. Lime, demo, and scrap are the main things that I see that turn trailers over when the drivers don't pay attention.
Practice makes perfect. I always watch my trailer when it comes out of the saddle on the 5th wheel, if it wobbles to the left or right then there's a problem and you better figure it out before you try to dump. I turn off all radios and don't allow anyone near me when I dump. I've seen a trailer land on another truck it wasn't pretty and took 3 hours to get the driver out of the cab, he was OK physically but never drove again.

 

As I stated in an earlier post. But please elaborate on how letting the trailer come to you prevents bending of the tailgate?

 

My 379 has no sleeper window any other option for making sure I’m going up straight

Unfortunately this is a small company I’m leasing to so not using there shop. But the same place that is going to install my wet kit is going to also pin my fifth wheel

 

Can you elaborate on those situations or should I just dumb both till I get the hang of it.