to all end dump haulers...

I had a day where it was very windy. I was in a soft field dumping Gypsum. The boss was there and he told me to dump even although I was NOT happy with the situation. So I turned the truck into the wind and only untarped about 1/3rd of the way, slowly raised the trailer to about halfway then made a long low pile instead of the two big ones. It came out ok (we had plastic liners in our trailers) but let me tell you I needed a change of shorts afterwards! Even just that little way raised inthe wind made the truck VERY unstable! So watch out and be careful folks! The next truck up almost rolled!

 

Great advice given here, as I am an end dump hauler also, so good luck as everyone has stated, but most of all take their advice seriously.

 

Does anyone know of local companies around waco, TX hiring rock buckets? i see lots of trucks and try to chat them on the cb but they all seem to speak spanish and little or no english. i have done a search and come up with some in dallas and south of waco. if anyone has any info i would appreciate it.

thanks
Mud

 

And just think how there are so many in the industry these days, whom ((("think"))) that drivers are just steering wheel holders, who don't need to make much money (at least a decent and fair wage), all during their careers (or) how they keep this attitude until it all comes back to haunt big time in the form of super high insurance rates (making it harder to compete) due to injuries and roll overs, by using rookies or anyone they can find who will work for little or nothing for them (i.e. work for peanuts), in which is what some of these companies want in their drivers. I was impressed with your thinking on the job, and it tells me that you are a driver that is interested in protecting your company, in order that it protects you. Good Job and a job well done..

 

Lot's of great advice on safe and proper dumping for end-dumps. What about making sure the truck and trailer are aligned and straight (not angled) while dumping? I always felt this was important to keep stability. Thoughts?

 

With the framed trailers, you can dump with the trailer at an angle. With frame-less trailers, not so much. It can be done, however you need to be on solid, level ground. Instead of setting the trailer brakes, which allows the tractor to walk back, you set the parking brake or apply enough pressure to the service brake to hold the tractor, and allow the trailer to walk forward. This is done in situations where there's no way to get the tt/trl in a straight line, AND the ground is solid and level. Where you need to be extra careful is when you need to pull the trailer forward away from the pile. I would recommend lowering the bed some before pulling forward. For example concrete mixing companies might have their material storage bins on concrete pads, and you can't get in a straight line due to other material in the way.

 

you southern boys would have fun learning to drag these around,.



running 30% off road,. BC,.alberta, sask,. manitoba,
dirty dirt,.clean dirt,. sand and gravel,.
hauling sand right now in lloydminster, temps were -22c, just using the trailer no lead.
Backing up the reverse super B is tricky,.legal gross of 139,500lbs.
Hard to judge dirty dirt on the lease,. so oft times quite a bit heavier,.

 

Yep your right, however I have no desire to pull any kind of wiggle-wagon.

 

If hauling dirt or clay be very careful when dumping, usually you will be dumping on soft ground. Plus, it usually takes it a while to come sliding down. If that happens DO NOT keep lifting the box. When the box is up with that weight in it, that's when you're in a bad position cause that weight can easily push the box over even with a slightest bit of tilt. Dirt and clay dump sites are where you will see the most tip overs. What you want to do is raise the box halfway or so, and wait for the dirt, clay or whatever sticky material you are carrying to start falling out. Then you can start slowly raing all while paying attention making sure the box isnt starting to tip. If you have the box halfway up and material still isnt falling out, raise it a LITTLE more then stop and wait some more. Lift it in little increments till it starts flowing out, then you can start raising it all the way up steadily. Always keep your eyes on the box. Make sure it's not tilting. You can get away with some tilt. The less weight in the trailer while it's up the safer it is and the more tilt you can get away with. Stone usually slides out fast and is the safest to dump, but you can still tip it if you're not careful. On a frameless, watch the front axle wheels. As they come off the ground, if one comes up before the other you know you're not on even ground. If it's not that bad continue to lift the box. If the tilt increases as you lift the box, put it down and dump on another spot. As others have pointed out, make sure bags on both truck and trailer are deflated, your gate is unlocked, no ubstructions overhead, and make sure you do not have both tractor and trailer brakes locked in the same time if you are using a frameless box. You can damage the cylinder and or pump that way, You can have one or another locked. Just not both at the same time. When you have the bucket up all the way or get close, release all brakes and if you are on a smooth surface, the load comming out will push you forward. It can push you pretty fast so be ready to apply the brakes if needed. If you are stuck, and have a frameless box, you can "caterpillar" out of alot of situations. As the trailer is up you have less weight on the drive axles so traction is not as great, and the deflated airbags aren't pushing down on the wheels either which makes it even worse. Lock the trailer brakes(hand valve works best for this)and lower the bucket. As you lower the bucket, it will push the tractor forward. You can help it by giving throttle, AVOID wheel hops they are devastating to rear ends. As the trailer is lowered all the way, lock the tractor brake and release the trailer brake. Raise the trailer again, this time the tractor should stay in one place and the trailer will come towards the tractor. When raised fully, release tractor brakes, lock the trailer, lower it and repeat. One advatage frameless trailers have over framed. This is from my experience with shorter 22-24 or so foot end dumps. It might be a little different with some of the significantly longer boxes. Over 16 years of dumping ALOT of loads not a tip over once...knock on wood

 

Never done frameless but I was allways told don't hesitate with the framed trailers, if you have a slight lean and get uneasy either put it Down or hold her to the boards to get the load to brake