TONU and Not Paying

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by wyodispatchgirl, Oct 29, 2017.

  1. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    No. I'm assuming here that TONU falls into the same category as detention or layover. Accessorial pay. You can't file on a bond for accessorials. If they don't pay it really there's not much you can do. Go to small claims court over a $250 TONU? Put the word out on them. Name them so everyone else knows who to avoid.
     
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  3. wyodispatchgirl

    wyodispatchgirl Light Load Member

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    Well, that's a bummer. Paramount Logistics.
     
  4. firecatf7333

    firecatf7333 Light Load Member

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    Hmm good to know. I've used them twice this past month with no issues but I'll keep that in mind.
     
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  5. 12 ga

    12 ga THE VIEW FROM MY OFFICE

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    Is it Paramount, University Heights Ohio?
     
  6. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    CHR did not pay me TONU either (lousy $150 - is it their TONU default pay?), despite having it in writing and invoicing it, their accounting just told me to call the broker back to ask him to do this and do that..., then when I did, they said they would do it but never did...I felt like they were fooling me. I just did not bother any more. This way I should not feel too bad falling out on their loads either. TONU is like Detention, too much hassle for too little. I cannot declare not to haul for them though. Things like these need to be best avoided and if they happen just absorbed with calmness.
    An old man told me that patience and being calm is the best trait to stay alive in this business.
    It only proves, that the big guys CHR, TQL, JB Hunt, XPO are only as good as the last load they treated you with.

    I don't know about filing on a broker's bond, but I understand that it should not be done frivolously
    (100 - 500$). I don't mean to diminish the importance of principle but let's be pragmatic, if they black list you and they are one of the big brokers, or you take quite a number of loads from them, is it really worth it?
     
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  7. Hurst

    Hurst Registered Member

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    In part of the rate/con or carrier packet setup,.. include a TONU clause. Have them sign it.



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  8. nax

    nax Road Train Member

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    A little digging, and I found this....don't leave home without it.

    I would cancel out the "Carrier agrees to accept any amount that Broker is able to collect from its customer", since that could mean "zero $" is might be deemed as acceptable.

    If we can agree that:
    • Time = money
    • Nothing is Free
    • Then my time = a minimum, non-trivial $

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  9. 6wheeler

    6wheeler Road Train Member

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    I got a good one. How about we book another load with these brokers and never show up to pick it up?

    North Shore Logistics.
    LPC Lackawanna logistics.
     
  10. Hurst

    Hurst Registered Member

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    Having been screwed in the past by brokers who claim $50 - $100 is the norm for wasting an O/O's day,.. the carrier I am leased with will not allow me to book any loads with brokers who will not sign their TONU clause.

    It basically stipulates that if they cancel for any reason after a rate/con/load agreement was signed they pay me $500. Pretty much eliminates brokers cancelling loads at the last minute. Many of the scum bag bottom feeder brokers wont sign it.

    Couple years back,. TQL in particular screwed me on an O/S load. Crane broke down and I didnt get loaded until almost 5pm. I had maybe 1 hour of day light left. TQL fined us $500 for the 10'8 wide load was not delivered 460mi by 10 am the next day. When I had called them and explained what was going on,.. She said it was not a problem. Obviously someone thought it was. Have not hauled anything for them since.

    Hurst
     
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  11. wyodispatchgirl

    wyodispatchgirl Light Load Member

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    The measure of a company for me is not just when things go well, it's how the handle the problems that can come up and that's when we usually get screwed.
     
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