Top Secret Security Clearance?

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  1. mpd240

    mpd240 Road Train Member

    Sep 17, 2011
    ####. We’re all hiding something
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  3. CAXPT

    CAXPT Road Train Member

    Feb 10, 2008
    Not that's important enough to lie or omit. If it is, don't seek a Security clearance of any kind. :)
  4. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

    Sep 10, 2010
    Flint, MI
    Yes, bit even if you think it's embarrassing, no one else cares about your midget porn collection. :)
  5. roundhouse

    roundhouse Road Train Member

    Jul 11, 2018
    Financial stuff to start with .
    If you have any unpaid child support , or repossessed cars or foreclosed mortgages or liens or judgements or lots of credit card bills that you just pay the
    Minimum payment on , stuff like that.
    If you can’t manage your personal money , that’s considered a security risk.

    driving record, if you can’t obey the traffic laws ,
    Usually it’s no DUIs in the last ten years , sometimes no DUIs ever .
    Usually no reckless driving or street racing. Ever.
    No more than two tickets in the last seven years and no tickets at all in the last three .

    criminal history. If you’ve had any run ins with the law , ever been arrested etc , Probabaly not gonna get the clearance.

    and , the biggie :
    All this also applies to your parents , siblings, spouse and In laws if you’re married or ex’es if you’re divorced . And children if you have any .

    the apple usually doesn’t fall far from the tree . If any of your family or friends have had issues with the law , it’s going to be a consideration in your clearance .

    they also usually talk to your neighbors , former co workers etc .

    Finding dependable drivers is hard.

    now imagine finding dependable drivers that are responsible with the personal finances , and have never been arrested, and don’t cheat on their taxes , (the background check usually includes a behind the scenes IRS audit ) don’t drive their personal car like an idiot . etc

    and I’m sure there’s a check of
    Your social media , do you post long hate filled rants on Twitter or Facebook or Reddit or Instagram or the truckers report or other sites ?

    And there’s other variables too .
    I know someone that’s never been arrested , or had a DUI, but they just split from wife number FIVE.
    Not a good sign when you’re looking for stability and responsibility .

    All this is a good thing though.
    The barrier to entry in truck driving isn’t very high ,
    There’s lots of convicted criminals , people With terrible driving records and terrible credit scores ,
    And lots of immigrants .

    A driving job requiring a security clearance means you’re
    Not competing with all
    Those drivers for the job .

    the security clearance eliminates about 90% of the eligible drivers .
    And just filling out the form eliminates 2 out of 3 applicants .
    It’s a lot of forms to fill out ,
    Last ten years employment history and residence address of all your family etc
    Names, addresses , birthdates , SS numbers etc , of everyone .

    it takes a couple three weeks just to get the information together and fill out the form. Then another 6 weeks to six months waiting , most drivers who CAN pass the clearance don’t want to fill out the forms and wait .
    I’d estimate that maybe 1 out of 100 or 150 drivers would be willing to put the effort into it and pass .
  6. 201

    201 Road Train Member

    Apr 16, 2014
    high plains colorado
    2 words, drug test. I live in a state that has legal weed, and I'm flabbergasted that employers can't find workers but still want a drug test. I even wrote Walmart, who do they think is going to do those mundane jobs? With more states jumping on the band wagon, I think( hope) the drug test shenanigans has run it's course, burnouts don't want to drive trucks anymore, and you guys are just making those clinics rich. I don't advocate drug use in trucks today, even though, we never killed anyone, but something needs to be done. Lost a lot of great drivers, the industry never recovered from. With mega pileups and semis going down pedestrian bridges,, that we never saw, is it really any safer today?
  7. RockinChair

    RockinChair Road Train Member

    That's probably what would get me. Both of my ex-wives were horrible with money.
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    DRTDEVL Road Train Member

    Jan 27, 2013
    Austin, MN
    From my time in the military and recruiting for the Army, bad credit is the number one disqualifier. Repo? Done. Bankruptcy? Done. Foreclosure? Done. Excessive Credit Card debt? Done.

    I had a Secret Clearance that was suspended when I retired (It only had a couple more valid years on it anyway). Had I kept it, I would have lost it when I divorced due to my ex-wife's actions trying to ruin me financially.
  9. JSanborn103

    JSanborn103 Light Load Member

    Jan 20, 2021
    Yea it sucks that we can’t smoke weed but hey, more money for us who can restrain ourselves
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  10. Val_Caldera

    Val_Caldera Road Train Member

    Apr 2, 2021
    D.U.I.'s, Check.
    Jails (NOT Prisons), Check.
    Bad Credit, Check.
    College Courses Dropped Out, Check.
    Multiple Employers over 20+ Years Trucking, Check.
    Haz Mat, Check (expired in '12).
    Class A, Check, reduced to Class C in '21.
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    Top "Secret Security" Clearance Means You'll Be Constantly Surveilled/Monitored, in MY Opinion, from some "conversations" with Drivers Having Claimed Doing Such Activities, Nationwide. (maybe their experiences were hallucinations!:rolleyes:)

    I KNOW I Don't Know What I Don't Know & Some Of What I Think I Know, or Knew, I'll NEVER Know All.
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    Safe & Pleasant Journeys To Thee & Thy Loved Ones!!

  11. Rum

    Rum Bobtail Member

    Feb 22, 2019
    General Dynamics posts TS driver positions. Could be a lot of hoops to go through for not much better pay and a 6mo to 18mo hiring process. They are probably looking for Vets willing to obtain a CDL or already process one. From my personal experience, a job that requires a TS, has a lot of legal issues you open yourself up to that can make it completely not worth it.
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