Tracking who uses EOBRs

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by BigBadBill, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. bubbanbrenda

    bubbanbrenda Road Train Member

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    It seems to me that the Federale's are trying to regulate/control and make us just as accountable as airline pilots, maybe if they paid us like pilots we would'nt mind so much. Now on to the big picture all this government control and taxation crap the government is doing is why we left England 250 years ago, and why we dumped all the tea into the Boston Harbor, it is sad but i think its going to take a organized stand against the powers that be to fix/stop it, and if it comes to that the best we can hope for is starting over. I'm not looking for a fight just my $0.02.
     
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    I think some drivers make more than some airline pilots .
     
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    EOBR's are coming. We all knew this when FMCSA pushed for it. Myself, I think it's a waste of money and time. For company and lease operator drivers, all this does is puts your log book in the hands of management. I know there will be some that will disagree with me, but I know this for a fact.

    When I was a lease operator for a very large carrier, I was pushed many times. I know, I did not have to do it. But when your trying to make a living and money, and the carrier threatens to sit you for 3-4 days if you don't cheat, you be the judge of yourself. My dispatcher would change my logs on my Qualcomm many times to make a deliver or get a load pick up. The little lights on my Qualcomm and all the beepers would go nuts, show I was in violation, but by the next day, all was good,

    So if your one of the sheep that thinks Qulcomms are the greatest safety device ever, take a look when you see a truck crashed in the ditch for no reason, no weather related reason, looks as if the driver fell asleep at the wheel. Take a look on the back of the cab, might be a Qualcomm there.

    I will put one in my truck when it's time. But at least now, I'll be the one in control of it. As for the company drivers and lease operators, good luck. This is why all the big company's have pushed and pushed for this, total control of the truck.

    Next up, in cab cameras for everyone. I'am sure the same sheep that love EOBR's will be big fans of this to.
     
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  4. Oscar the KW

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    They can put a camera in my truck if they want to see a dude wearing a halloween mask and sunglasses all the time.
     
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    I always thought it would be funny to put a picture on a stick of a pressed ham. The stick is to hold it far enough away to be in focus.
     
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    We might actually get paid more if we had to go thru the various levels of training as pilots do. Kind of an apples to oranges comparison. A simple one would be it taking several years of driving time before you get assigned your own truck.

    Stump, it is easy to equate those that are on e-logs to those that can't seem to keep their trucks on the road. That has nothing to do with the e-log or paper. No machine or log books forces anyone to drive beyond what they can stay awake for, or force them to drive in conditions that they should shut down for. When I was on paper or being on e-log now, no difference. If I need to stop, I do. Still wondering how so many can be told by an e-log what to do. Oh well, I am coming to realize why so many cannot stand up against their dispatcher, if they cannot even stand up against a computer.
     
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    Last october in Vegas i sat in with a group of safety directors for some large carriers. The whole discussion was on drivers that were"minimizing"available hours.(not that it can't be done on paper also) Stopping far earlier for breaks and then driving 6-7 hours to the delivery,arrive a few hours early to get the 14 hour clock started.
     
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    So wichris, these drivers were using E-logs to minimize driving time?

    Great idea to give the load planners and company officers tons of new gray hairs.:biggrin_2559:
     
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    I just wonder if anyone stands up against their computer when their 11/14 is shot and they're an hour maybe two hours away from the house at the end of a week? And using their own good judgement, physically they are fully capable of driving that distance home above and beyond the 11/14?
     
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    That's what it was all about. And i'm sure the drivers doing it were the one's that complained the most about no money. I've had drivers that did it on paper,they can drive 10-11 hours straight coming home but only a couple of hours at a time on the outbound. Always sick,tired,ect.
     
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