Eight hours straight is not an issue until July. But, the possibility of them being EOBR is interesting.
What I meant was that some times guys have a destination 8 or 9 hours away and 8 or 9 hours available. With paper logs they would probably take a break in their if they felt fatigued and just fudge the logs a little. With EOBR you do sometimes run into situations where you are fatigued but can't take a break or you will run out of hours. I'm just curious if FMCSA considers this, are they scientific in their data collection and analysis or one-sided ?
The response from FMCSA officials, to my head of the log department, on these very questions was plain and simple, "the rule will cover all interstate trucks, no exceptions". That means, one trick pony operations and making my mechanical motor obsolete. About 10% of our fleet is mechanical and will be effected. We will either have to update our trucks, or at least update our engines.
The break won't effect the 8 or 9 hours still available, as the break is off duty, so it has no effect in that situation. Now, if your destination is 9 hours away and you have an appointment for 9 hours from now, you are going to be 1/2 hour late, come July.
The break will count against the 14 available but not against the 70 in 8 days . If you had 3 or more hours on duty the time it takes to get off the road , park , take your break , and get back on the road will take away from your drive time .
Depends on the parameters of the EOBR. If it is set to go to line 3, after movement of 1 mile, the time getting on the road, will not count.
That's exactly why we should all just stop right in the middle of the interstate after 8 hours of continuous driving. And when mr. dot walks up and asks just what the hell we're thinking we simply explain to them "well sir you require me to take a 30 minute break after 8 hours of driving continuously, I drove for 8 continuous hours and there's nowhere else to park so I had to stop and take my break to make sure I'm safe on the road you know? And I couldn't find a safer spot at this time than right here in the middle of rush hour in down town LA blocking 2 lanes of traffic. Have a good one I'll be leaving in 30 minutes"
Last time i talked to the Log Dept on these EOBR's for Dummies,it was set at 7/10ths of a MPH.Then it kicks you on.. So if a driver is on the reciever's ''property'' and he/she is in the waiting area..How does he get from the waiting area to the docks without going ''on duty''..Same rule applys with Automotive and you have to deliver 2 docks on opposite ends of the building..I am sorry but this is ''nit picking''.
Ours and many others don't kick on until 15 m.p.h. If we do a posttrip it won't go to driving until we do a pretrip no matter how fast we go . It will also not go to driving while logged off duty but we'd better be showing personal conveyance .