Tractor First, Right?

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  1. HandLogger

    HandLogger Light Load Member

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    Thanks for the details, @wore out ...I'm very sorry to read about your misfortune, however ... Do you have a new project tractor under way?
     
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  3. HandLogger

    HandLogger Light Load Member

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    One of the things I like about CAT...


    CAT biting on 22-foot EWP Saw Log 052216 .jpg


     
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    wore out Numbered Classic

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    Until earlier today I could say no but I did find an 85 ext hood today that has really caught my eye so we will see
     
  5. HandLogger

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    I'm seeing quite a few tractors advertised as having a CAT 3406 with 475 HP (no letter designation).
    Is the horsepower rating of 475 indicative of a particular 3406, @wore out?

    I'm seeing so many advertised like this that I'm getting the feeling that it must.
     
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    wore out Numbered Classic

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    If it's rated at 475 it's gonna be an E model or C-15.
    Most likely an E being advertised as a 3406
     
  7. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    Hey now let's not pick on Detroits. I got a 60 series 12.7 and I used to run a 13 axle setup with this motor. Yea slower, but she did the job. Now just running 8 axles and still going. Lol
     
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  8. spyder7723

    spyder7723 Road Train Member

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    Unless you plan on using the truck on a daily baits is almost always cheaper to hire out the trucking. Just hiring a full time driver is going to run you nearly a hundred grand a year. No that's not all in wages. 75k to 80k in wages gets you a quality driver, add in employment taxes, workmans comp and health insurance, the automakers costs of employing a cdl driver such as implementing a drug testing program and auditing log books. These are relatively small costs but they add up. you might as well just call it an even hundred in costs. Try to go cheap on the driver and it will cost you. You will get a guy that doesn't care and only puts in minimal effort and abuses the equipment, slacks on securement, and drives like a fool. Always remember, any accident, no matter how minor, and you are getting sued. Lawyers see trucks as big paydays. God help you if he doesn't double check his securement and drops a machine on some car at 65 mph.

    Insurance and proper registration is going to run ya another 12 to 15k per year. And then we have the cost of a truck. Not just the initial price, but the customer to operate it and keep it well maintained.

    For a company that only ships a load or two a week hiring out the trucking isn't quite so expensive after all huh?
     
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  9. HandLogger

    HandLogger Light Load Member

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    Apart from the years I spent on active duty, I've been involved with forest products since the first day my Dad (God rest him) put his old clattering Husky in my hands. My stepdad, a retired OTR driver and manager of a transport business, has been after me for years to add a tractor to our operation. Our service man, a former OTR driver who now owns and operates his own, semi tractor based, service truck has also been after me for years to add a tractor to the business.

    I could go on and on about the logistics of our business, but it's much easier to simply repeat that we have access to a driver and, more to the point, to repeat that renting equipment -- or hiring out trucking (and scheduling around it) -- has become too expensive.

    Beginning with the admin I wrote to before I ever joined the forum, I've been guided through the process of asking those in the know the questions that need asking and, quite frankly, I've been more than impressed with the positive results we've gotten from this simple thread. Thanks to all who've taken the time to add productive thoughts to this thread and I hope to continue learning more from you.
     
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  10. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    At least you thought things out before posting like some people do, then get mad when people that know what they are talking about say it will or won't work and state why it won't work
    Good luck in your expansion. Keep us posted please
     
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  11. HandLogger

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    To tell you the truth, @passingthru69, the business works only because we get sound advice, guidance and help from reliable folks who we've known for many years. They help us and, when the time comes, we help them. It's the message that was beat into me by my Dad and it's the message I hope those that take over for me will continue to spread to everyone around them.
     
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