Tractor securement

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by jellybean, May 22, 2013.

  1. jellybean

    jellybean Medium Load Member

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    I was parked next to a guy hauling 3 Massy Ferguson dl260 tractors with buckets. He's hauling them on a 48' flat. He has two straps on each tractor one over the front tire on over the back tire. That's all the securement he has no chains or binders. I'm not a flatbed driver but is this ample securement? I wouldn't feel comfortable hauling a load worth a couple $100 grand with 6 straps. Just curious. Thanks.
     
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  3. critters

    critters <b>Late For Dinner</b>

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    Legally ? Yes straps are rated at 5600lbs 5600 lbs each. if they are 4" . Those tractors are less than that
    Safe ? Not in my opinion,I'm a flatbedder/heavy hauler I believe in chains and over securment.
     
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  4. BrianE

    BrianE Light Load Member

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    I deliver tractors for a Kubota dealer. No way do I ever use straps on a tractor. Chains and binders and I lock the binder with the extra chain. I use straps for mowers, rtv's and small implements, that's all they are good for in my world.
     
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  5. GOV'T_Trucker

    GOV'T_Trucker Heavy Load Member

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    They all do the same thing... They all have a rating for a legal amount per strap.. As long as the straps are equal or more to the weights of the tractors he is fine... Sure chains look better and make it seem more secure but thats about it..

    Now when I was flatbedding I wouldn't use straps for things like equipment, coils, dies and varies other things.. But that was my preference.. Besides like I said it looks better with chains, less chance the DOT will want to take a closer look at your ways of securement..
     
  6. JDP

    JDP Medium Load Member

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    From what I can tell according to FMCSA 393.128 securing a tractor of this size with straps over the tires is illegal. I'm assuming this unit w/ loader is less than 10k in weight. That puts it in the same securement category as cars/trucks/ and light equipment. And the below quote from FMCSA said you need to secure the unit from integrated tie-down points or over the tires with the use of straps that cradle the tires like tow-truck operators use. 4" straps are not specifically designed for this, nor are they using specified tie-down points.

    (b) Securement of automobiles, light trucks, and vans.
    (1) Automobiles, light trucks, and vans must be
    restrained at both the front and rear to prevent
    lateral, forward, rearward, and vertical
    movement using a minimum of two tiedowns.
    (2) Tiedowns that are designed to be affixed to the
    structure of the automobile, light truck, or van
    must use the mounting points on those vehicles
    that have been specifically designed for that
    purpose.
    (3) Tiedowns that are designed to fit over or
    around the wheels of an automobile, light truck,
    or van must provide restraint in the lateral,
    longitudinal and vertical directions.
     
  7. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    I prefer chains on equipment, such as tractors. Are you talking about tire straps? If so, that is what many car haulers are now using to secure their cars. If you are talking about using 4" straps across both tires, then that is likely not a good way to properly secure a tractor. Back when I pulled Case Holland skid loaders, we had to use 1 strap and 1 chain to secure them. I would usually haul 4 or 5 on each load. If something has wheels it is usually good to secure it where the securement is pulling from opposite directions.
     
  8. Cluck Cluck

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    You should've punched him in the nose.
     
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  9. fisher guy

    fisher guy Road Train Member

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    i agree with this fully
     
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  10. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    no, they don't do the same thing. Chains hook into themselves and are inherently resistant to sharp edges. Straps are for going over the load and hooking to the other side or to a suitable edge, not for coming into contact with things that might cut them. Two totally different devices, each with their purpose.
     
  11. Cluck Cluck

    Cluck Cluck LTL Wizard

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    I've got done straps that if I can find a place to hook them would be perfect of tying down a small tractor or mini excavator, heck I saw a guy with chains on a load of shingles....and straps over his tarp....some people are lost
     
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