Trailer swing while backing and position of tandems?

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  1. Six9GS

    Six9GS Road Train Member

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    I find the my load always pretty much dictate where I have my tandems. I run CA alot, so often the 40' mark is as far as I can go back, they usually don't go much further forward. I tend to like my tandems at around the 40' to begin with. To me, it's a good middle ground on maneuvability verse swing out problems. Farther the tandems are back, more maneuvering room is needed. But, the farther they are forward the more you have to be careful of the trailer swing out on your blind side. For me, that 40' mark is a good middle ground.
     
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  3. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    Being a trainer entails having to sleep while the truck is rolling and living off of caffeine and energy drinks. I got ulcers from all the caffeine and energy drinks I drank as a trainer. Now I get extremely nauseated and barf if I drink caffeine. So I cannot be a trainer any more.
     
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  4. Ffx95

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    The trailer swing becomes a problem on really tight maneuvers. Assuming you leave appropriate gap between the truck and vehicles on your side the swing becomes something you have to worry about when the trailer stops traveling and instead just pivots. There is a small amount of swing before the pivot though. I almost always drive with them all the way to the front because I do a lot of NYC my advise is avoid button hooks when you got a hard turn near cars instead open up as wide as you can and try to reduce the amount of time your trailer pivots. Generally on the t680’s I drive a one shot turn you don’t need to worry about the swing too much. It’s when you gotta turn the wheel the other wheel and do a 2 or more step turn is where you’re likely to scrape fenders. On daycabs you have to be mindful of your turns because their shorter wheelbase let’s them have a tighter turning angle and the trailer will pivot earlier.
     
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  5. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    This is why so many mirrors get ripped off at truck stops. I'm not trying to bust your chops, but it bewilders me how someone cannot immediately see how this works.
     
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  6. MidWest_MacDaddy

    MidWest_MacDaddy Road Train Member

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    No thank you… lol
     
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  7. MidWest_MacDaddy

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    Sound more like team driving vs training… but I know companies do that. Use trainees/trainers as team drivers.
     
  8. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    The mirror is the first thing to go with that trailer swing.
    But in tight quarters, the fender and hood might be next.

    And how about making a tight u-turn in a yard?
    With the tandems too far forward the back of the trailer will actually go backwards to hit something.
     
  9. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    You probably don't understand this yourself at the level that I am trying to understand this.
     
  10. expedite_it

    expedite_it Road Train Member

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    You are the only person so far who seems to understand this at the (deep) level that I am trying to understand this in terms of physics. Before anyone asks me why I need to understand this at such a deep level, I just find it interesting. I know that I don't have to understand this at such a deep level to use this knowledge as a truck driver blah blah blah----I just find it interesting. If you don't find it interesting like I do, you can remedy that by exiting this thread and moving on to a different thread at thetruckersreport.com. Don't waste your time whining about it. Just exit the thread.

    Your idea that the fact that the only part of the trailer that touches the ground is the tandems means that makes the tandems the pivot point seems correct to my intuition. But I would not know how to explain why the fact that the tandems touch the ground makes it correct. I don't know how to describe or explain it in words.

    How does the fact that the tandems are the only part of the trailer that touches the ground make the tandems the pivot point?
     
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