Your statement is going from rookie to experienced without including the middle ground where the rookie GETS THE EXPERIENCE!
So without the "experience" that driver is "unsafe"? Where does that "experience" come from...a simulator(?), a few courses online(?), how about a good rousing discussion at the T/S coffee cup legal beagle counter club? When are you going to allow them the chance to gain the experience? I would rather see a rookie, who has a good perspective about safety, has a good respect (almost fear) of "out of norm" conditions, and is smart enough to be aware and pay complete attention to the task at hand. Rather than one of these youngsters that thinks speed is everything, and he/she is above errors, has a ####y attitude about anything and everything he/she does, and has a complete disregard for advice, criticism, or assistance offered from anyone with more or equal experience than they have!
You must give the newbie(s) a chance at some point...the sooner the better, before that safe and careful time (9-17 months) grabs em and slaps em in a ditch!
Trainers!!! How long before one should be a trainer
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by TheRoadWarrior, Jul 28, 2012.
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A ton of Great Point guys and gals but lets not turn this into a war of words ok. Frame of mind and attitude has alot to do with this job. getting into a situation that can possibly be fatal and not knowing what to do is what we want to teach the new drivers how to avoid.
I like all of us Vets did Rookie Mistakes heck i do them in my race car and ive been racing since age 16 but when i strap myself in i think im invinceable and that has proven wrong on a few occasions. But the difference as i use my racing as an example is that im competiting on a track with one other car in my truck im out there with millions of 4 wheelers and who knows what their day has been like or if they are even paying attention. Rain, snow, sleet, highwinds, tornados all factor in to make the senario even more compelling. Can a vet or rookie get out of a situation say if a car comes across the median the odds are prolly not but in reality a vet will look for an escape route just for those situation while a rookie may slam on the brakes it just takes time to learn.
Training a new driver should give him or her the confidence to handle all situation in all weather climates. Knowing when black ice is forming under the tires, what to do in a whiteout situation, how to handle snow packed 6 percent grades, hands on training on throwing the iron, and backing in tite spots. It all comes with experience and it does not come overnite as some may think. Having a big RADIO does not make you a professional driverCAXPT, otherhalftw and Giggles the Original Thank this. -
This thread has to be one of the BEST discussions I've seen on TTR in a long long time!
So far...no exchange of expletives, no name calling...a reasonable group that has differing opinions relating to the initial topic and keeping within the general philosophy of the initial question.
GREAT JOB SO FAR
WELL DONE ALL!!!!
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sure...you say that just when i was about to cut loose...LMAO...j/k.....
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Saw ya LURKING...thought I needed to act fast!!!CAXPT, bullhaulerswife and Giggles the Original Thank this.
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LMAO Otter Truck Blocked Gigs.... Carry On
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out of respect for RW...i will be good.....lol altho being bad comes natural....besides it wont change the hard headedness of some...i see both sides presented here...and some drivers (new) are just naturals, and safety minded and do a good job...and yes. some older drivers do develop bad habits...but bottom line is...i know if i need surgery or a lawyer etc...i want someone with experience....however the newbies have to get it some way..WE ALL DID, we WERE ALL NEW at one time....but i didnt knock the older drivers....too many today feel they have something to prove..that they are gonna do it better. like was mentioned, they shoulda been trucking before the comforts we have today, and see how long they would last....we need new drivers, cuz eventually us older ones will get off the road...its too bad, that some of them dont realize all they could learn from the vets...instead of gettin an attitude with them...we are all out here together...i cant tell you the last time when we passed someone in/out of trk stop shipper etc that they actually said hello...no one waves anymore..etc...ok sorry RW off track..nevermind...
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Obviously a trainer should have a certain amount of experience before teaching others. I don't what that number is. I do think that way too much emphasis is being put on that though.
No matter how good or bad the trainer is the trainee will go out on their own at some point. And no matter how long they spend with the trainer they can't learn everything. IMO the biggest thing should be developing a good process to determine if the trainee possesses the right traits and will be able to handle them self properly when they run into those situations that did not come up in training.CAXPT Thanks this. -
BoyWander: I come back to this Thread to Apologize for my bad attitude, which it was, and I feel I was a Poor Example for all the New Drivers
reading my post, and poor results. I was out of control, and continued to do so. Im Sorry. I forget many times, I am a Guest here on TTR, and
acting like that, I turned also on the Administrators, All the Moderators, and Friends I have here. I Apologize.TheRoadWarrior, Giggles the Original, CAXPT and 2 others Thank this.
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