Trouble getting a company to hire me. i would love some advice

OK, NOW we're just getting silly!

 

Only now?

*hangs head in shame*

 

Please read my post at #94. Are you asserting that what I said is not supported by statistics? That it is inaccurate that it is likely that a convicted felon will commit another crime? Or is the problem in the wording I used? If you can produce statistics to the contrary I would like to see them. It sounds like you are accusing me of cherry picking info that only supports my position when there is just as much or more evidence otherwise. Is the point that maybe if the question was "what percentage of convicted felons commit another crime" (despite having been re-integrated into society at the same level that they were before they were convicted thus resulting in a clean slate), that there would be a different percentage more to your favor? Please cite these results if possible. I think you are advancing an ideal that will never exist in the real world. The human condition of mistrust and general superiority to a convict would not allow it.

Had I wanted to jade everyone's opinion I could have said: "It has been my experience that when given a second chance, 100% of convicts fail." Read #94. In my case that IS a fact. It IS my experience. But this is an absurd conclusion to draw considering two (2) is not a very large control group.

Would you agree that dealing with felons (or anybody else) in the at least semi controlled environment of a classroom when they are right in front of you is altogether different from dealing with one 950 miles away and sitting on board 200K of YOUR equipment with YOUR personal name on it and YOUR reputation in his hands? I am telling you what I MUST look at as the person responsible for who is in the seats. Statistics and past history are what I have. Just between us you would be surprised how large of a percentage of them are JUST WHAT THEIR PAST HISTORY SAYS THEY ARE. Please consider this when referring to my "useless" statistics. Would you also consider things such as MVR, PSP, and CSA scores "useless" as you call them? They are other records of an individual's performance are they not? What do you want me to use if not that? My gut feeling? Ma'am my guys are out there right now with maybe your family, friends, you, who knows who? Do you expect me to accept a man just because you believe everyone deserves a second chance? I sincerely hope not. I pray every day that as a carrier we don't hurt anybody and no one hurts us. That would be hard for me to deal with, because in the end this company is office staff and drivers. In other words people. My employees and me. I hired them. If something happens I will have to answer because I am their supervisor. Or I will have to tell their family if something happens to them while they are on the road doing my business. I feel for them more than they know and I think about them more than they realize. They are an extension of me and they carry my reputation just as much as they do their own when they are in a truck with my signs on it. I won't apologize for holding them to a high standard so don't ask. You are an idealist and I HAVE to be a realist. The difference between us is that in my position I CAN'T deal in hypotheticals and idealism. They are just as "useless" as my statistics you didn't like. You are an individual pining for a world that does not exist.

Read the end of #107. I told the OP how to avoid having to deal with a judgemental, supertrucker that never did anything wrong, felon bashing, intolerant ###hole like me for a HR manager. That is what I have been called in this thread by some of these good fine people (not you). If they think it bothers me they are mistaken and I invite them to come on with all the personal attacks they want as long as they are original and not rehash. The OP needs to have it expunged and that way never have to worry about some #### like me seeing it when he applies. By the way I am enjoying debating with you without personal attacks. It can be done. Thank You.

 

HOME / Jurisprudence : The law, lawyers, and the court
Why Misdemeanors Aren’t So Minor

Too often the criminal justice system is pronouncing people guilty without evidence, lawyers, or a chance to plead their case.

By Alexandra Natapoff| Posted Friday, April 27, 2012, at 11:33 AM


Yesterday, people across America pleaded guilty to crimes they didn’t commit. This isn’t something new or extraordinary. Every year, the American criminal system punishes thousands of people who are not guilty. These routine wrongful convictions never make it into headlines because they are misdemeanors, petty offenses like trespassing, disorderly conduct, or loitering. Minor offenses are largely ignored because we are usually focused on the felonies—the rapes, murders, drug crimes, and robberies. But felonies are actually exceptional. Approximately 1 million felony convictions are entered every year; more than 10 million misdemeanor cases are filed in the same time. In most states, misdemeanor dockets are four or five times the size of felony dockets. If you ever enter the American criminal justice system, odds are it will be for a misdemeanor. They may be seen as small-time offenses, but collectively how we process misdemeanors represents an immense and influential public institution. Something so powerful deserves far deeper scrutiny.

Because petty offenses are considered second-class citizens, data about them are sparse. Some states like California don’t even bother to count their misdemeanor convictions at all. One of the few reports on the phenomenon, published by the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, concludes that the massive misdemeanor apparatus is shockingly informal, overcrowded, and sloppy. Petty offenders are routinely denied counsel even when they are constitutionally entitled to a lawyer. If counsel is appointed, public defenders carry so many cases—some literally have thousands—that they can devote only minutes to each one...

More:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...jor_consequences_for_the_people_charged_.html

 

Truck drivers, both OTR and local, work extremely hard at the jobs they do. They must be concerned about continuously driving safely combined with on time deliveries in a safe courteous manner.

Drivers, as with all other workers in the U.S.A., are quite concerned about their families, pay, benefits, retirement, vacation and home time, seniority, job security, along with following the policies and regulations of both their companies and D.O.T..

However, when it comes to the hiring of various people of various backgrounds, this is the responsibility of the human resources and recruiting departments of the trucking companies, NOT the truck drivers themselves. This should be the LEAST of the individual truck driver's worries, considering all the other worries and stresses the individual truck driver has.

God bless every American and their families! God bless the U.S.A.!

 

If he new how to drive yes I would...eveyone deserve a second chance...

 

Wow.. what a thread.. what a read.. very insightful and thought provoking as well as educational.. need to check, but a may have earned a para-legal credit.. fall back in case trucking doesn't work.. LOL..

The thing that stands out to me.. is.. a "clean background" can mean someone who hasn't committed crimes as well as someone who didn't or hasn't been caught..

Also.. just because someone has done things in the past doesn't mean they will continue... Some people do learn from their mistakes.. or they have a life changing event that changes them..
It, is also true, that just because someone has never committed a crime doesn't mean they never will...

Circumstances and situations... We can't assume that the OP is or will.see drugs on the road.. but, we also can't know for certain that some driver out there struggle to make ends meet wont try to make a few extra bucks and sell drugs..

Look at "hiccup Girl"... We first heard of her because of her rare medical.condition.. now, in jail for murder..

I watcbed a documentary the other day about a family man who turned to robbing banks when he got let go from his high paying job.. he did it to pay his bills and take care of his family.. said, the Idea first came to him after being turrned down for a loan he needed to keep a roof over his families heads.. he had been tryingto get work.. trying to do it the fight way... But, when things were hitting bottom he made a desperate decision..

 

alright. so why not try to find a job driving a straight truck again. they are out there and would get you a start to a driving job. get into something you can stay at for a year or two to establish stability and reliability. than you have something to show a prospective career employer to convince them you're the guy they should give a shot to.

lots of smaller moving companies are always looking for drivers of straight trucks. hard work but gets you going in that direction.

 

First thing first. Thats not even the freaking question dude.... The man needs a job so he want go back to prison.