Truck Pulls Right - Process of Elimination?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by OhNoTerry, Jan 4, 2025.

  1. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    Why so light on the steer axle? The four axle trucks I’ve ran carried 12-13k on the steer with the axle down to be able to bridge the weight. How much are you carrying on your lift? Have you checked anything on it?
     
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  3. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    That's too much pressure on the drop.

    Can make for slippery steering in bad weather. Not enough steering pressure.

    My steers only lighten up from 13200 to 11600 pounds.
     
  4. silverspur

    silverspur Road Train Member

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    Used car I bought was pulling right.
    Bent right front rim was the culprit.
    New rims eliminated the problem.
     
  5. OhNoTerry

    OhNoTerry Medium Load Member

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    It isn't too much pressure on the drop. I pull a 13,900 gallon propane tanker that sits just an inch or two behind center the first drive axle, that's the only way I can legally pull it when I'm empty. 53k Tare weight. I'm a 280" WB set front axle truck with a 86" sleeper. I've done every which thing to move and reduce pressures to get the truck to balance. With my drop down, my drives sit at roughly 33.5k, trailer is maxed out at 52k on 4 axles, combined at around 103k. From what I've heard from the other propane haulers, that's just an issue we have to deal with in this line of hauling.
     
  6. OhNoTerry

    OhNoTerry Medium Load Member

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    Check my response to Snowy. I'm at roughly 41k with my drives and drop axle combined. If you're familiar with WA state bridge and group laws, I'm under 9'6" spread with my drop.
     
  7. OhNoTerry

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    I'm assuming jacking up the truck and rotating tires up in the air would be an easy way to diagnose if that's the cause?
     
  8. Long FLD

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    In your original post you said 105 gross and 50 on the trailer. I said too light because with that math of being 55 on the truck and under 10 on the steering wheel means you’re over 10 on the lift. Now you say 103 and 52 on the trailer so the math is a little better. Personally I’d want more on the steering but with a long truck and a short spread you won’t be able to do that without cutting your 7 axle bridge down too much.

    As far as the pulling, have the frame checked. Have everything on the drive axles checked. If it pulls when empty that rules out the lift. What’s your tire wear like? Usually a good alignment shop can look at tire wear and know where the truck is out of whack.
     
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  9. OhNoTerry

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    Tire wear is fairly even, shoulder of the steers, according to alignment guy showed minimal signs for how I was compensating to go straight. And I originally posted it in mechanics section with 0 hope that they'd know about WA state set ups, thus the broad spectrum of weights.
     
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  10. BlackjackCo

    BlackjackCo Light Load Member

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    I have had similar issues with my trucks in past including about 2 weeks ago. Similar setup but with belt trailer..

    Here are solutions that worked on each case over years ....

    Bad shock on final drop tag axle on trailer
    Bad wear on trailer tag tire
    Bad pressure and wear (not visible to naked eye) on the steerable drop push axle on tractor
    Latest was an imperfection in steer tire that only had 10,000 miles on it. They couldn't find problem, we checked all tires, bushings etc for all suspension and tire parts for all 8 axles with no solutions.... Just we decided to just replace both steers .... Problem solved
     
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  11. KDHCryo

    KDHCryo Medium Load Member

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    Everything above, but I have noticed running a regular tanker, my rear drive axle over the last 120K miles (last year of driving), has moved half an inch right as opposed to the front drive axle. I don't know how it happened, but it did. I guess I did it, because I'm the only one who drove the truck.

    8 foot straight edge against your tires can tell you a whole lot, and doesn't cost much. Hell a straight 2x4 would work.

    I'd start with the tractor before I started blaming the trailer.
     
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