Truck recovery and logging an airplane trip

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  1. Infosaur

    Infosaur Road Train Member

    So I've been asked to recover an a abandoned rig out of state and the company's going to fly me out (yay!)

    Part of me is thinking "screw it, just log line 4 when you get there. You don't log your commute into the office every day."

    But the other part of me is thinking, "somewhere down the line someone's gonna ask how you went off duty in Philadelphia and then the next day you came online in Chicago."

    I have a vague recollection of a 10 hour break being an adequate rest period (I'm not the one flying the plane after all.) and there was something I did a long time ago surrounded my rookie year involving *very long greyhound trips* (ugh!) but I'd forgotten what it was.

    Any tips, appreciated.
     
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  3. PacoTaco

    PacoTaco Medium Load Member

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    Unless you're flying the plane then you would log off duty.
     
  4. Lepton1

    Lepton1 Road Train Member

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    I infrequently get called on to cover "drive away" for my company. Sometimes that involves flying to go pick up a customer's truck and drive it from point A to point B. Sometimes that involves getting into a "chase van" with several other drivers, get driven to location and the chase van follows us.

    In either case that must be logged as On Duty, with a comment that it is Mobilization.

    For flights we are allowed to log Mobilization starting one hour before flight time until the moment we check into a hotel. We are paid hourly for Mobilization.

    Logging Off Duty isn't allowed, at least with my company.
     
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  5. not4hire

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    If you are travelling at the direction of the carrier, but not driving, you log it as on-duty unless you take 10 consecutive hours off-duty once you arrive at your destination. If you have the ten hours off-duty, then the travel time is off-duty.

    PART 395—HOURS OF SERVICE OF DRIVERS
    §395.1 Scope of rules in this part.


    (j) Travel time—(1) When a property-carrying commercial motor vehicle driver at the direction of the motor carrier is traveling, but not driving or assuming any other responsibility to the carrier, such time must be counted as on-duty time unless the driver is afforded at least 10 consecutive hours off duty when arriving at destination, in which case he/she must be considered off duty for the entire period.​
     
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  6. Ridgeline

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    Log off duty, we do this often and it doesn't count because even though you are being paid, you are not in control of the trip, or any delays.
     
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  7. Dj91867

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    I drove drive away in past, as long as you do not drive cmv after landing log off duty, if you gonna drive then you must be on duty for flight, note in log airport to airport in flight
     
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  8. Lepton1

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    I forwarded this to our powers that be.
     
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  9. Infosaur

    Infosaur Road Train Member

    Thanks, although DOT wouldn't know if I took a flight today or yesterday anyway. So as far as they know I was flown out on Monday night and I probably won't be ready to drive until this afternoon anyway. I might even get a 34 if I can wait until around 5pm to leave wherever this truck is sitting.
     
  10. mover man

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    If your getting paid hourly, then log on duty not driving. If your not getting paid hourly log off duty. Once you start driving of course you start with a fresh 70. Dont no how it's supposed to be done or if legal. But Before my company merged. During Aug thru Oct, when we have guys quit. I get flown out to do recovery. That' how I do it.
     
  11. not4hire

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    It doesn't matter if you're being paid or not, only your duty status.

    Section § 395.2: Definitions.

    Question 1: A company told all of its drivers that it would no longer pay for driving from the last stop to home and that this time should not be shown on the time cards. Is it a violation of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSRs) to operate a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) from the last stop to home and not show that time on the time cards?


    Guidance: The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSRs) do not address questions of pay. All the time spent operating a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) for, or at the direction of, a motor carrier must be recorded as driving time.

    Question 10: How does compensation relate to on-duty time?

    Guidance:
    The fact that a driver is paid for a period of time does not always establish that the driver was on-duty for the purposes of part 395 during that period of time. A driver may be relieved of duty under certain conditions and still be paid.

    - Regulations Section
     
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