Trying to Diagnose Bad Differential

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  1. Isafarmboy

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    It's got it's own oil drain plug pull it or open the front cover since you got it out.
     
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    Carriers are pretty tough, I agree, you probably puked the power divider.
     
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    With all 4 drive wheels on the ground, if something was broken in the rear rear axle, the inter axle driveshaft would spin. If only the input to the front diff is spinning, something is broken in the front diff. Likely a failed power divider section.
     
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    Your axle splines look like you could shave with them, scrap in my book. I would assume side gears in differential are worn too. Gear shop could inspect it for a fee. Found it is best to just go new these days if budget allows, cheaper in long run.
     
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    Soooooo what conclusion did you come too?
     
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    So I took both differentials and all my axles to a mechanic and he said the inner gears (where the axles splines connect) are cracked and my spider gears are probably fried but tomorrow he is going to help me take them apart and see if they're worth rebuilding or if I need to just get new. Both of my long axles are fried, but my short ones are good.
     
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    Also the root cause of the failure of both diffs in due to the driver engaging the full lockers while driving. They probably got engaged 20+ times while going 15-25 mph and spinning the tires on the hill was the straw that broke the camel's back.
     
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    No. Whoever told you engaging the lockers while moving caused the failure is 100% wrong. If no tires are spinning or you're not driving around a curve everything is moving the same speed. Its when you've got a wheel end spinning faster than the rest (ie a spinning tire) and you engage the locker that you'll cause damage.

    Never want to run the diff locks on hard ground in turns. Interaxle is generally fine to leave locked in when off pavement and shouldn't hurt anything making turns. Tire size is important new tires on 1 axle and worn on another will cause tire scrub and additional stress on the gears though. A lot of guys running off the pavement on loose ground or thru ruts and holes will leave the interaxle locked in.
     
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    Always best to lock them in before you are spinning or stuck.
     
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    Think of the damage caused to the side gears/spider gears when you spin a wheel. All that high speed spinning of the spider gears. Then the shock load when the spinning tire rapidly regains traction.

    The interaxle lock is a blessing when you get into the big tridrives we run up here. One wheel loses contact with ground when driving through a hole and you're spun out.
     
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