Trying to grasp how fuel tax and ifta works.

Discussion in 'Trucker Taxes and Truck Financing' started by Crazytrucker77, Jun 7, 2016.

  1. Crazytrucker77

    Crazytrucker77 Heavy Load Member

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    OMG I am going to make myself even more grey then I already am lol.

    So I am trying to educate myself on how to figure out where the cheapest fuel is including the whole tax thing. I only run Washington, Oregon, and Cali so it shouldn't be too hard. I know that Oregon does not do the IFTA and charges a per mile tax, but Cali and Washington are charging .445 and .45 per gallon. Obviously I found the IFTA tax table. I will continue reading into it and trying to get a hand on how it works, but any pointers would be appreciated. I am great with visual examples (hint hint). I am just wanting to do what I can to help out with cutting down costs for my employer while also learning how this business works. I eventually want to go O/O.
     
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  3. Brandt

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    To figure out the cheapest fuel just subtract the ifta tax from the pump price or any discount you get. That will show you how much the fuel really is. Then just buy the cheapest fuel for out of all the states you run in.
     
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    Thank you. I saw something about only getting the fuel you need in that state. What is your opinion on that?
     
  5. Brandt

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    Your better off buying the cheapest fuel you can. Because you have to pay the ifta tax anyway for miles traveled and fuel used in each state. The cheapest fuel state can change depending on the fuel price change for each state sometimes
     
  6. Razorwyr

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    It's not going to matter much. Basically what happens is when you buy fuel at the pump, you are paying taxes on it. When the company files their IFTA they are telling how many miles the truck went and how much fuel tax you paid at the pump. If you bought more fuel and paid more taxes than necessary for the mileage you get a refund. If you bought less, you owe money. So it's really irrelevant, you're still paying the same amount in taxes based off the mileage you drove. It's just a matter of getting a refund from one state to help pay the bill for another.
     
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    Washington state usually is pricey fuel even after you subtract the ifta tax. It probably between CA and OR. With Oregon your paying by the mile and no Ifta tax. So just see how CA is after subtracting the IFTA and you will see what state have the cheapest fuel
     
  8. Crazytrucker77

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    Last week I was in LA and the gas at the TA was 2.86 per gal. I had to stop at a small mom and pop station off the 710 to weigh and their fuel was 2.45 per gal. what a difference. In Oregon it was 2.74 at the petro in Phoenix. Too bad my company doesn't want me fueling at mom and pop places.
     
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    From what I gathered in my reading today it looked like it was a little more complicated then just deducting the ifta amount of the pump price. It was saying something about taking the mileage you ran in the state and dividing it by your MPG then multiplying it by the states ifta tax rate and that was how much you would have to pay. So if you ran 800 miles in the state that day and fueled 118 gallons, but were getting 6.5 MPG it would look something like this.

    118 x .45 = 53.10 Tax paid

    800 / 6.5 = 123.07 gallons used

    123.07 x .45 = 55.38 Tax owed

    If my calculations are correct my trip for that day I would have owed .28 in fuel tax. I may be over thinking it but once I take some time to go through it thoroughly I am sure I will get it. I guess now that I am looking at it I am more trying to keep track of what my tax pay out would be over finding out what is the cheaper fuel. I guess if I was an O/O I would want to keep track of this. The more I learn and can do myself the less I need to pay someone else to do for me. It's all about saving money after all.
     
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  10. Brandt

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    $2.45 in LA then subtract the tax I'm just guess, but say it $0.20 in LA for IFTA that now $2.25 a gal. That why you buy all your fuel in LA and just pay the Oregon tax anyway. You can see how much cheaper the fuel could be $2.25 vs $2.74 without any IFTA Tax. Because you have to pay the organ tax no matter what.
     
  11. Crazytrucker77

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    That is a good point and I will keep it in mind. I think I will have to put a bug in my bosses ear and see if I can find out what our fuel discounts are so I can start getting used to planning my fuel routing. That is one thing I like about my company, no fuel routing. Just fuel at TA, Petro, Pilot, or Flying J.
     
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