TuSimple completes first autonomous (level 4) 80 mile run from Tuscon and Phoenix

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  1. Trucker61016

    Trucker61016 Road Train Member

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    Ok, now bring this thing to the New Jersey Turnpike haha....particularly have it navigate to deliver to FedEx at the Newark Airport......
     
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  3. Trucker61016

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    It'll probably yell at you that it needs a wash too....
     
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    Poor covenant was in a elephant race back and forth at 10 min mark . I guarantee these will cause road rage
     
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  6. ErikN

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    the real key is, much of the job is not driving, and if the computer can’t do every job function then it’s not a driver replacement.

    it will likely be ending up like the airlines where the airplane flies on autopilot but still has a flight crew to man it.
     
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  7. Accidental Trucker

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    I don’t think so. If an autonomous truck can’t do the job of a truck driver, the job will change. The shipper will tarp or strap the load and “service areas” will pop up every 30 or 40 miles where trucks can pull in and a local crew will tighten securement and tarps, check tires and brake temperatures. Some services areas will be at chain up areas, and crews will install chains, verify reefer operation and fuel level, lights and such.

    More than half of the operational cost of a semi truck is related to the driver. If transportation can be accomplished without the driver going with the truck it’ll happen. There’s just too much money involved.
     
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  8. ErikN

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    I mean that’s large amounts of cost though that presumably the carrier will still have to pay somehow.
     
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    Wonder how these trucks will know if the trailer is sliding out or if its dragging the trailer through an overplowed ditch.
     
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  10. ErikN

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    Well that’s the major limitation. They totally lack ability to make predictions based on soft knowledge.

    They can only measure inputs. This may seem like what humans do, but it’s not. We develop biases based on experience, which is different. A “robot” truck can “see” a child on a bicycle, but it can’t tell the difference between a child on a bicycle or a deer, Which require different courses of action.
     
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  11. Accidental Trucker

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    The autonomous truck will not be running OTR, as we know it now, for decades, if ever, in my opinion. It will run know routes repeatedly. It knows where every ditch, every corner, every mailbox is. It's not going to pull into a mud hole or hit a bollard -- it knows where they are.

    The other thing that makes this all different is that these trucks will not be running like solar powered drivers. They will be running at night, and probably SLOW. Take the trucks down to 55 mph, and save 30% on fuel, 50% on maintenance and 80% on labor. Time no longer is a significant limiting factor. Load not ready? Oh, well, no HOS to worry about. No holidays, no dentist appointments, no kid's birthday parties. Load the truck at the end of the production shift, and it runs overnight to the next hub, from where it runs overnight to the next hub, and so on. Trucks won't do the job we know now, the job will be different.
     
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