I'm researching truck driving as a new career and in my research I've been reading a lot about the different types of pay that make up a drivers total compensation, such as hold over pay, extra miles pay, safety pay, fuel saving pay etc.. My questions are:
What is the different pay types that make up a drivers total weekly compensation?
Are they the same/standard from company to company?
I've also read in the bad trucking companies section about companies not paying drivers because they didn't fill out their pay documents correctly (so says the company) and they get a big goose egg for their pay.
What invoices or documents are there that need to filled out (correctly) and when do you have to have them turned in to the company to get paid?
Does the company teach or train the drivers how to properly fill out the documents?
What can you do if this happens and you get no pay, do you re-file the corrected documents?
What is more likely true, did the driver make a mistake or is the company just being cleaver in their attempt to delay/not pay out what they owe?
Many thanks to anyone and all who provide feedback.
Types of pay
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Bigten418, Jun 9, 2013.
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what each pays depend on the company and how they get paid as well.
total weekly depends on what happens during the week to get the additional pay.
depends on the company on forms if any some do it through qualcom others from the transflo that you send in or whatever service they use with the BOL for the load it happened on if you forget than ask your dm/lm about what to do
some must not show there drivers the way to do the proper way to get it and expect the trainers to do it(assuming this) if you have never had to do the forms or whatever than ask your dm through qualcom or if u have to use the phone et a recording of the convo so 1 you dont forget the details and 2 so if they say you didnt do it right but was cause you were not told the right way you have a way to back it up.
some companys may try and delay or try to not pay for it but that is where above comes in CYA(cover your arse) or could just be driver mistakes all depends on the driver and company
safety/fuel saving pay depend on the company what/when they pay it monthly semi annually or annually
so as you can see its all depends on who you work for, what there practices are, when you send it in with right bol and forms if any or whatever the company requires if you cya and get details about something you have never done and get the right info getting the pay shouldnt be a big problem unless the company is crooked than its time to look for a different company. -
Most carriers compensate drivers pretty much the same, but there can be some differences.
Some drivers complain about carriers. I take those with a grain of salt. It is up to the driver to make sure they have all paperwork filled out properly and all bills are signed, logs turned in and IFTA miles and gallons recorded. Carriers are required to maintain certain records from the drivers. Shippers and brokers require properly signed documents before they will pay the carrier. If drivers don't submit their paperwork then nobody gets paid. Without properly signed bills there is no proof that the load was delivered. You can't blame the carrier for the driver failing to submit proper paperwork.
It depends on the shipper. Most only require that the carrier submit properly signed legible bills of lading. Some may have additional paperwork that must be submitted along with the bills. Carriers will usually also require that the driver keep track of and submit a trip sheet on each load. That will include the mileage traveled in each state and route. Carriers are also required to collect the drivers logs. Most carriers provide trip envelopes where drivers can mail or allow them to send paperwork electronically.
Most carriers cover paperwork and what is required in order to be paid during orientation.
Drivers will need to resubmit the proper paperwork in order to get paid. Some carriers may offer an advance to the driver once they receive the proper paperwork. Some may wait until the next pay period. It is the responsibility of the driver to make sure that he submits everything that the carrier needs in order to be paid.
Most of the time it is the fault of the driver. There is little incentive for a carrier to delay payment to the driver. Carriers want to keep good drivers happy. Some drivers like to blame the carrier, but pay can be delayed due to the driver not submitting all required paperwork or not getting his paperwork submitted within the required time to be paid as expected. There could also be delays in transporting paperwork and those responsible for checking paperwork at the carrier could have made a mistake or misfiled the paperwork. Carriers usually pay promptly once everything is received.
Gunner710 Thanks this. -
Thanks lilRich and G/Man.
I am compiling a do, and donts list in hopes my transition into the trucking business and beginning experience will be good. Of the gripes it seems pay and pay related issues are top of the list, particularly,"Filling out and submitting pay documents correctly so you get paid what you are owed".
If anyone out there has additional recommendations or advice on how to avoid mistakes on pay documents or some common errors youve seen please sound off here, it will be greatly appreciated. -
Just heard from one of our drivers he was not getting his lumper pay reimbursed.
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Pmracing: your "Lumper" info is something I've not or don't recall coming up in any discussions and I surely would not have known to even ask, many thanks for the info.
Pmracing Thanks this. -
First ...
The words you need to learn is accessorial pay.
When you talk to a carrier or recruiter, tell them you want to know what the accessorial pay is and ask for a list of accessorial payouts.
These are the extras that go into the pay. Many don't understand or even know about it let alone know they should ask for it when they begin to talk to a carrier for either employment or contractor work.
This depends on the company, and what are you going to be, a contractor (O/O or driver for a fleet owner) or an employee.
No, every company is different and has different pay scales.
OK not to rain on anyone's parade, the truth is this - everyone is different and everyone has different expectations and levels of patients. Most companies don't screw people over unless they want to be screwed over which in other words a lot of people enter this industry with the idea of freedom and making the big bucks instantly but get disappointed when they can't figure out why they are just sitting there after complaining to the dispatcher for twenty minutes about something they were told to do.
But back to your comment, there is a legal process that is followed in order for the carrier to run, they have to have the proper paper work in order to be paid, even the handshake agreement to haul something has to have paper work. One aspect of this is insurance, you mess a load up and the insurance don't have to pay if the paper work is messed up. I learned quickly that drivers don't want to put the effort into checking the paper work before they get loaded or leave the dock or when they deliver. I had one driver who was so mad that we couldn't get paid because she didn't total up the weight of the load at the shipper with their initials and the consignee refused the entire load, we both ate the cost, the carrier didn't care other than the lost shipment.
It all depends. Most of the time a bill of laden and shipping documents are what is needed but I ran hazmat for the last three years and had a lot of other paper work that had to be signed and turned in - like quality control paperwork.
Mine did, my drivers either get instructions from the carrier or I meet with them and go through it. BUT I can't say for others.
Again it depends on the load and the circumstances. Some you can get corrected but others you can't, then there is refusals which are a lot of work to fix. I would say it is better to just get it right the first time, if in doubt ask and if you don't get a straight answer, ask your dispatcher.
I don't know, I never felt that I was screwed by a company.
I think you need to get rid of the preconceived notion that companies are out to screw everyone, instead get the attitude of building habits and doing your due diligence with each and every load. A check list is a good start, always follow it and never be rushed or told to move without completing it.
Documentation is the least of your worries, I would look at it being part of a process of the load and work.
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Some companies promise all sort of pay and bonuses, you'll never see because they rarely pay them. (in reality)
The bottom line is how much you are actually taking home each week, balanced against how much you had to work for it,(Including wasted time) and the working conditions. -
Ridgeline,
Thank you for your post, it was very informative and much appreciated. I am making a career change to truck driving and I want this to be an enjoyable and successful venture and I simply want to get started off on the right foot. I also know thatI have to pay my dues, so to speak, before the good money comes along, which Iam willing to do. But that being said I also want to--as best I can--have the best opportunity at making the best wage I can starting out. And I believe knowledge is key to doing just that. With the few threads I posted on this site you experienced drivesr have quite generously provided me--and hopefully othernew drivers--with outstanding advice and insight that will ensure I get started off well.
Your accessorial pay comment is a prime example of why I am seeking as much guidance as I possibly can, it arms we with the tools needed to negotiate a good contract with a carrier. (Assuming I have some leverage to do that as anew driver).
Which brings me to my next question:
As a new driver seeking employment, what things should I be asking from companies/recruiters during the hiring process, or in deciding which company towork for?Last edited: Jun 13, 2013
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Another couple questions I have is:
How long can you drive in a workday?
What is the total length of a drivers work day before that have to stop?
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