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U learn something new everyday, better at someone else's expense, here's 1 at mine 4U

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by walstib, Jun 1, 2013.

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  1. Jun 4, 2013 #41
    walstib

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    What you describe was my goal, it just became constant braking as it just wanted to go regardless of speed I tried to hold.
     
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  3. Jun 4, 2013 #42
    thedrifter

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    I drove an 88 frieghtliner had the pedal on the floor. You can leave the switch on the dash on all the time. It is a pain till you get used to it but its not a bad setup.
     
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  4. Jun 4, 2013 #43
    thedrifter

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    You should learn to handle mountains. Your trainer did not do his job if you don't know how to go down a grade. In one of my old posts I explained to way to manage your brakes and decend a mountain. You should NEVER trust anything mechanical. It's not a question of it MIGHT fail it is the question of when.
     
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  5. Jun 4, 2013 #44
    okiedokie

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    Foot jake is what I called them. Not the best setup when driving a logger. 4 pedals to work w/ your feet. I changed mine over to a toggle switch on the shift tower. Sweet.:biggrin_25517:Yeah lots of hills and corners all day long.
     
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  7. Jun 4, 2013 #45
    Big Don

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    Right on. Back in my early trucking days I worked for an aggregate hauler out of St. George. My normal ride then was around a 1990 4 axle L9000 with a pup and no jake. Did a lot of work up on Cedar Mtn. (SR 14 east of Cedar City,) and also over at Brian Head Ski Area. Not a lot of fun coming down those grades without a jake, but if you did it right, it wasn't a problem. One guy didn't do it right, and killed himself. . .If my memory is right, there was a jake on the twin stick Mack he drove.
     
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  8. Jun 4, 2013 #46
    walstib

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    I'm getting used to it.
     
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  9. Jun 4, 2013 #47
    walstib

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    In my short time of driving, 2.5yrs, I've driven every major hill in the country(I'm sure I've missed a couple), many covered in snow, and never had this problem. Not saying I know and have experienced everything in any way. Something just Wasnt right here other than the jake, I think. I hope.

    I had the brakes checked on tractor and trailer, tractors were fine, they haven't got to trailer yet but mechanic said this trailer has been in shop twice recently for brake issues(he recognized the number instantly). If they weren't holding, that would explain a lot. I have 42k in can and some bigger longer hills to travel on 79 and 68 thru VA tomorrow, I'm going to not use jake and 'practice' to see if it was my technique or something else. Ill post my results, if technique, ill explain to a T what I did and y'all can correct/teach me. Until the other day I hadn't had to use those techniques, maybe they're bad or just rusty from not using. Ill find out tomorrow.
     
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  10. Jun 6, 2013 #48
    walstib

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    I had no problems on 68 and 79 on much bigger hills not using the jake...I only did it on 2 as they are very long and didn't want to wear out brakes more than necessary, I don't pay for them, but I need to depend on them!...

    Trailer is still in shop(as of this afternoon), I think it's been put to back of line as it's a constant problem, I'll report when I find out...

    Starting to dig this foot pedal now...I like having the jake 'on' without it being on until I want it...
     
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  11. Jun 6, 2013 #49
    chompi

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    You did good man!

    Like otherhalf said, you need to stay on top of it and not let it get more than a few mph outta whack otherwise that's when it will get away from you and be hard to recover. A lot of drivers don't realize that it doesn't take much for things to get out of hand. Then its a real fight to recover!
     
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  12. Jun 7, 2013 #50
    frago

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    BTW Use Lower gear means Lower gear than the one that you need to climb the hill not lower than Top gear.

    Feel sorry for new drivers who never had the luxury to not have all these crutches while driving. Just one of those things that came in with 2 week CDL Schools and Auto Shifts. They even removed most of the signs on Donner Pass that used to actually coach you the whole way down each hill and dale. Old Fart Note , we used to use the Engine Fan for our "Jake".
     
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