Unavoidable overweight's

Drivel .

 

If I was a compliance officer, you would get ZERO mercy from here. Ignorance is alive and well.

 

Given that you don't even know that there are no CSA points involved, nor do you have the first clue about the type of hauling being discussed, I would say you are correct in your assessment of "ignorance is alive and well"... yours.

 

Appears to be in your world. Funny how even most states understand and depending on the product hauled or where it was loaded will give you a percentage for overweight. Ohio will allow you 4% for grain if loaded at a place without scales on a state hwy. But I'm sure you already knew that being the resident expert.

 

I hauled roll off for about 6yrs doing hazwaste never did I haul overloaded bins. It was simple we had air gauges on the truck and trailer and if we loaded a bin and it ended up being over weight the bin stayed till the customer got someone to take care of it. I didn't matter if it was in the city or out in the middle of the desert it is not the drivers responsibility or the companies to haul a bin that the customer overloaded. If you let them get away with it they keep doing it and it cost you more money, hell that an extra bin rental and transport.

 

Don't see many air ride container chassis, log trailers or beat up old scrap dumps. I'm actually impressed when I see a container chassis with working lights. Some loads can be legal when loaded but get heavier in the rain. I think what some of us are trying to point out is there is such a thing as an unavoidable overweight.

 

I haul dry bulk. Most of the time we load off of our suspension gauges...truck and trailer. Just the other day I got a load of limestone in Cave In Rock, IL. My gauges were perfect and according to their scale I was good to go. I made it to Mount Vernon, IL at the TA and figured I'd hit the scale before I parked. The load had shifted around enough and I was 2000 over on my drives.

Now, if I would have been pulled over or kept going and hit some scales, it'd been my ###. Even when I left the shipper I was golden.

So whoever says that being over weight is avoidable, I will say you are full of it. Took me thirty minutes of fluffing up the limestone and shifting it around to get it legal. By the time I got to McCook, NE, it had shifted more, according to my gauges, to make my drives over. But all the scales I hit Saturday were closed so I didn't have to deal with it.

That's why with limestone, flour and other loads I always try to get a CAT scale ticket showing I was legal when I left. I was over 1400 one time but the LEO let me off with a warning. I just had to shift load back to make it legal.

 

Had to shift a load of bulk potato's back in California once. No place to scale between shipper and scale house. I was over 5,000 over on my drives. Backed up and braked a few times and had it fixed. No ticket.
Use to haul out of Bethlehem PA over to Jersey allot. No scale in the area before the NJ scale house. Unless I was to drive 40 miles the wrong way to get to one, then drive back. I was never over on an axle more than a couple hundred LBS. But that was due to good guesses, since all loads were over 43000 on a Reefer.

 

Ever haul wood chips? How do I shift those?

They get blown in with a wood chipper until the box is full. Sometimes you gross out at 85k, other times 105k. (permit says 99k) More often than not, its right around the 99, but the conditions change, and the weight varies.

Truck and trailer are spring ride, the only scale I roll across is at the mill so my boss can get paid.

Only thing you can do is hope you've got one of the 85k loads when DOT breaks out the portable scales.

You really going to shovel out 6 thousand pounds of product? What would you do with it? Leave it by the scale?

 

Moisture content is a big issue.