Under $2/mile loads with $6/gal diesel.

Just make numbers up, it’s the internet.


Anyone can fake anything on here. Pics don’t mean jack ####.

at the end of the day, all that matters is the wife and kids are happy, roofs over their heads and you ain’t starving.

 

I would encourage you both to participate in the Rate thread I made. Provide a quote for each of the lanes discussed. Then folks can see where others are. None of my numbers are fake and if you called me on the phone tomorrow and asked me to quote a lane, as shippers often do, those are the rates I'd provide. How have you developed your numbers? I'm not judging...it makes sense that carriers be real with one another and share information that can only help us all out. If you want to "hide" your numbers, well that's the same that some brokers do...what's that tell you?

 

Transparency is right around the corner.
Evidently, it is a law already.
It may resurface with a stronger momentum when people start defaulting on their loans.
If it is close, ready to be grabbed and it is a pragmatic thing to do so.

 

You won't escape government involvement and I am talking about something that can be obtained with relatively easy political effort. And that effort is already in place. So, this is not a new concept. Of course, I will be selective in what will suit me and oppose all the things that won't. Pragmatism.

Your example is not convincing. The shipper would have to certify the rate, just like they do it sometimes - numerous times I've seen in the shipping papers what they paid. Fraud would be punishable severely.

Listen to me now...
Another thing, I hope you will back me on this, is the idea of putting brokers on commission....that's why the idea of transparency may come in handy. I feel so convinced about it that I think about writing an e-letter to my congresswoman.
I simply don't see why a freight broker, just like real estate brokers, should NOT be capped to a specific percentage...I think 15%. Even ambulance chasers can take only a certain portion of the settlement - 25% I think.
You speak of a free market. The market is already rigged against an owner-operator and small fleets. And you will be limited to 65 mph. Chances are that you will be ruled by euro-style social-democrat politics in the near future, so instead of huffing and puffing how much you are appalled by the governmental involvment, it is better to learn how to use those measures that could optimize your position.
1. Transparency
2. Forcing brokers to work on a commission - 15% - that's brilliant. they can rip off shippers as much as they can, but your cut will always be 85%.

 

Been at the home 20 since
9/22/22 C'mon!!

 

Joe, look up anti-trust laws. You can't tell a business what they can make for profit. Realtors are not capped at 6% but it's become a "standard" fee because people don't know that they can't say all the brokers have agreed to charge the same amount. That's entering anti-trust territory.

You are free to request what a broker got paid. Just send them a letter and ask. They won't respond. Then, you can file a motion with a court to force them to comply to your request. They may provide you the data after they are served the complaint, or not. Anyways, it's getting complicated and costly only to find out that you could have gotten another $37 on the load. Or maybe it was $689, or $1400. The rules are on the books to make an argument in court. It's up to you to make the motion. Is it worth it?

Now, if you want to really know what the numbers are, you can find them. Some shippers will tell you if you ask.

 

Agreed. I have local guys that we are not buddy's. Sure as hell have no problem asking what I'm up to, or why my truck has been sitting. Depends on the day what I tell them. Lol. I like enjoying myself.


I'll give anyone on here my list of top 10 brokers. Free

 

I thought that there were regulatory measures as to what % certain services can charge from the whole amount. I think medical settlements in Illinois are regulated up to 25% for the law firm of the awarded amount. The cut does not mean putting a limit on a profit but rather a fair disbursement. I mean a broker in this case could charge whatever they want but the disbursement would have to be set accordingly.

 

Last month was my 3rd best month. I set my rates and have a customer that pays for what I offer. They are willing to pay a bit more than dealing with a headache. My spot market work is mostly of repeat service. Just like @Ruthless mentioned it’s about what services you can perform not just a money amount. If you want good paying freight, you have to be known for a great service. Otherwise you are just a fish in a big ocean. If your not the go to guy for your customers, your playing it wrong. Yea, you may lose a haul for a bit by a cheaper guy a few times, but when that other guy fails, the customer remembers you. Do everything better than the competition. I even started writing emails back to brokers that we didn’t agree on pricing after a deal that didn’t go thru. Be civil, no bad attitude after hearing a low rate. Politely give quote, move on. Name recognition on quality, don’t be a carrier that blends into the swarm.

 

Hang on, I'm writing all this down.