Under $2/mile loads with $6/gal diesel.

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by kay_ray, Oct 11, 2022.

When will another strike happen

  1. No strike

    44 vote(s)
    43.6%
  2. Is $2/mile cheap ?

    4 vote(s)
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  3. I run at $2/mile

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  4. Strike in 3 months

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  5. Strike right now

    16 vote(s)
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  6. I don't care

    26 vote(s)
    25.7%
  7. I am a broker idgaf

    8 vote(s)
    7.9%
  1. Short Fuse EOD

    Short Fuse EOD Road Train Member

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    Sorry! Hehe
     
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  3. rch10007

    rch10007 Medium Load Member

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    Private and public entities are held to different rules.
     
  4. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    It tells you I put my own self interest above somebody that would cut my throat to get that same business. I pull a reefer and it goes without saying it's competitive. I don't care what service you provide you will lose on price in today's market. If you run something you like and do it often you best keep doing a good job of it and keep your mouth shut about anything with regards to it.
     
  5. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    What happens when that broker can not cover those loads for the amount the sold it for? Right now they eat the bad lanes they have and the other lanes that pay better make up for it. Your idea is never gonna go anywhere and it sure should not be capped at 15 percent. Why would anyone want to work and only make 15 percent at best. You are trying to kill the American dream.
     
  6. jamespmack

    jamespmack Road Train Member

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    So I mostly have more years pulling wrenches vs owner op. Try this on.

    Numbers are generic and simple. Not factual. Just a example.

    I am selling you a clutch.

    I pay 500.00 and add 20% markup. That is 600.00 your price cash and carry.

    Your over the counter retail price is 575.00 at peterworthshaking.

    Or, I'm a smart shop owner and negotiate my inventory, or buy involume. So I bought a pallet of identical clutches for 400.00 a piece. Now I add a 40% markup.

    400@40% is 560.00 over the counter.
    Saved you money and No GD business of your what I paid for it. You saved money. I increased my profit with hard work and a relationship. Gtfo my doorstep with this stupid sheet. Stop being concerned with others. They ain't worried about you.
     
  7. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    There should be a mechanism in place in which he has to turn to the shipper for more money, or pay out of his own pocket or default. Is it not like that now? I hear all too often that they are at loss to allow me to run this load for that much, even though it is within DAT average rate on that lane.
    In medieval Catalonia, if a banker went bankrupt, they publically cut his head off.
     
  8. Short Fuse EOD

    Short Fuse EOD Road Train Member

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    Just a thought. Broker may be taking a small loss, or a loss of his cut of expected profit…
    Dat gets their rates from a factoring company. Not all use a factor, the poor and desperate mostly do and are more likely to take lower rates. So the real rates in the lane may be higher. If you are worried about their cut being to big for your ego..get your own customers. Then save a customer the hassle of dealing with the brokerage failing to secure a quality carrier. I have a uniform I wear and have no problem doing a meet and greet. I have mostly failed but I got one offer on bid ( backed out cause I knew I couldn’t handle the request) and one contacted me ( been servicing customer 6 months every week now)
     
  9. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    15% could be a great number for those with large accounts. Only successful brokerages could justify their existence. Free market taking care of everything in today's model of society is a pipe dream.
    They are nonproductive elements of the economy and allowing them to grow too much in feathers does nobody else any good but themselves. Intuitively, you can't think it is all right that the likes of TQL will wallow in gold while tens of thousands of trucks are repossessed, and people are degraded. You have to think about what is better for the nation as a whole.
     
  10. Siinman

    Siinman Road Train Member

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    The people that pull for TQL most likely deserve it. They only pay when they HAVE TO MOVE IT WITH IN A FEW HOURS OF PICK UP. Like I said earlier leave the poor paying freight to the people that want it. Not every factory or company that ships stuff can afford to pay good to move the product. That is the good thing about a free market as they can make it as well.

    You need to go get your own customers and see how hard it is to get them. Then you should only charge them 15 percent of what it takes to run the loads nothing more or less. This way the shipper and receiver does not get screwed over. They will need to see your cost so that they can approve of it first. They may want to shop around with other owner operators and see if they have cheaper operating cost.
     
  11. Short Fuse EOD

    Short Fuse EOD Road Train Member

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