Under $2/mile loads with $6/gal diesel.

If you want to nitpick definitions and play word police that's cool, you can have the last word on that aspect of the conversation as it doesn't address anything of substance to the meat of the argument, but if you want to start a new thread where I run you through the mud on that debate also, I'm game, haha.

I'm a big boy, no harm no foul, no insult taken, fun debate.

 

Never asked but they tell you regardless. You have to sign an agreement with them to sell the home. Again I didn't care if they got 20 percent since when I said it was for sale I had to get X for myself. You list it however you want to make that happen. And that is what it sold for and she made whatever it was off of the price.

 

Agreed I took a class and got my CDL and became a owner op with no more than 2 weeks of driving experience..

 

Grasping the system and engineering it towards the most optimal state in which everyone is satisfied as much as possible is a task worth undertaking. Why have all the humanistic sciences from history, sociology, psychology, economics, politics and not use their studies?
An economical system does not have a static state. For one reason or another it is thrown out of balance and then it tries to go back to its optimal state - the problem is it takes too much time from people's lives to wait.
The free market is indeed the sum of all competing interest but the flaw of it is that it creates sever imbalances that take too long to stabilize and therefore accept in this day and age when societies are no longer subdued, enslaved subjects of a ruler but more prone to express dissatisfaction and unrest.
Take Great Depression. Who of all those people sunk in poverty had enough time to wait for Adam Smith "invisible hand" to sort things out for them?
Of course, the government had to step in and give them the hand, otherwise they would have gone insane. For them back then, an for some now, the free market model failed.

15% is nothing but an empirical figure reported somewhere on XM radio. That's the average cut brokers had a few years ago. I refuse to reject the modern tools of interventional economics. We don't want to resort back to unstable times of poverties and social upheavals. The times of those deserving to starve to death in street gutters are gone forever. You have to accommodate the weak and the unable, otherwise you create a chaos beyond control. A hungry man is a dangerous man.

Based on what I said before, I find it a demagogic statement.
Generally speaking, solutions must be found. The free market is not a solution in itself.

 

This is just another dressed up version of every central planners wet dream that have led to the destruction of hundreds of millions of lives throughout history. Just because you can anthropomorphize the entire system of human trade doesn't mean you can magically apply overly simplistic resolutions to somehow whip it into an end state that fulfills your personal version of utopia or near utopia.

Nobody on this planet can poll everyone to determine their end goal of satisfaction that they seek. So your entire premise is dismissed from the start because you can't even define your specific goal ("grasping the system and engineering it towards the most optimal state in which everyone is satisfied as much as possible") outside of overly generalized empty statements.

Nobody is advocating for a free market absent regulations. We are advocating for a market that preserves as much of every persons property rights and personal liberties while occupying finite space and pursuing finite resources together in which competing interests are often at odds.

The regulations that have been implemented over time in this free market of ours are, generally speaking, meant to reduce tail risk events that cause severe disruptions. There is no such thing as an optimal balance in trade and there should never be a reason to follow these world savior types who relish the opportunity to sell their utopia to the world at the expense of some other guys expense of personal freedom.

 

Msha may be the biggest blowhards in the universe... One of them was giving me #### because I guess ur supposed to have a bigger fire extingwisher than what most trucks carry ... Tried to tell me if i had a brake fire coming down from the quarry and started a forest fire he was gonna have my ### and my company will go bankrupt from the lawsuit... I laughed then told him i can get down that entire 11 mile haul road without ever touching my brakes and he about had a heart attack... Gave me the same type of lecture of once u turn off that highway im ur boss not the dot... Yeah f u dude...

 

Brakes are over rated! I hardly use them unless some moron comes to a quick stop in front of me.

 

I get that, but the broker isn't hauling anything, so how could DOT audit them.

Truck drivers often feel over regulated, when in reality, they are not.
Many other types of business are far more heavily regulated.

 

BS

Stop accusing freedom of causing all problems. You blaming freedom for the great depression is ridiculous.

The great depression was caused by the government's loose monetary policies during the 1920s which ballooned the available supply of money and credit. Inflation began to run rampant which caused businesses and investors to lose confidence, causing several sharp declines in the markets. That eventually led up to what is known as "Black Tuesday", when the market lost something like 25% of it's value in a day. The ensuing panic caused a run on banks, causing many banks to fail, wiping out people's savings and crippling credit markets.

The depression was then exacerbated by further government intervention. Hoover enacted steep tariffs, artificially propped up wages, increased government spending and deficits, government lending, all combined with a decreasing money supply in a foolish attempt to stop the inevitable is what caused the Great Depression. So instead of a 12-18 month market correction, we had 12 years of economic depression.

You need so stop asking the fox to come guard your henhouse, it's really not a good idea.

 

Did you have to sit through one of their training classes? Back in the late 90’s the guy I was driving a belly dump for got a contract to haul ore from a mine at Battle Mtn to up north of Golconda and we all had to sit through their training. I think it was around 4 hours of my life that I’ll never get back.