Under 26000# with air brakes

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Gyrodeputy, Apr 16, 2018.

  1. laughac

    laughac Bobtail Member

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    I'm hoping TN will let me take my CDL B road test in my boxtruck with air brakes. It's a 24' foot 2007 International 4300, which can be rated between 25,500-33,000 GVWR but there's no VIN sticker in it.
     
  2. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    They shouldn’t according to the regulations, it has to be in a truck like the one you are to drive ... what ever that means.
     
  3. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    He can use it for a class b, but without a trailer with air brakes he can not get his class a.
     
  4. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    If your CLP is not air brake restricted, and the the gvwr is 26,001 or greater it’s good so far. The snag is the VIN “sticker”. They should not allow a test using a vehicle with no VIN.
     
  5. seagreg

    seagreg Light Load Member

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    The "which can be rated" part is the concern.

    It doesn't matter IF a particular model can be built as a Class 7 or 8 truck, you have to test in a class 7 or 8 truck. If it is not stamped for greater than 26,001 GVWR than it is not a "Representative Vehicle" in the eyes of the AAMVA or state DOT.

    The driver is required to complete the road test in a representative vehicle. In the case of class B a representative vehicle is "Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more lbs. or any such vehicle towing a vehicle NOT in excess of 10,000 lbs. GVWR."

    It would be a lot easier to get your CDL if you could just go rent a Penske box truck...but even if you get it past the examiner they will enter the registration into CSTIMS and if it is not a Class 7 or 8 VIN (4th position) it will invalidate the test.

    Here is the portion of the sheet that they fill out.

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  6. jradford6387

    jradford6387 Bobtail Member

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    I was thinking the same thing! THERES NO SUCH THING AS AN "AIR BRAKE ENDORSEMENT" only restrictions on commercial drivers licenses. Again theres no such thing in the United states as an air brake ENDORSEMENT for cdl. If you dont have a cdl and the truck is under 26001 pounds and under 26feet long you should be fine! I keep seeing air brake ENDORSEMENT and it makes me cringe especially coming from guys who already have their cdls it's scary.
     
  7. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    What does the length you mentioned (Under 26ft) have to do with a CDL?
     
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