Hi,
I am new here and a new driver. I got my CDL three weeks ago (I had a class B for several years). I started company training and like most newbies I have trouble with backing (though I can get it in without hitting anything if I pull up several times). Here is the problem as I see it so far (after two weeks of company training). First I drive a tanker and nobody at my terminal has ever trained a driver right out of school. They seem to get frustrated because I don't drive as fast as they think I should. Mind you I drive between 55-60 loaded on the freeway; the speed limit in the city and allow plenty of distance to stop. (our company policy is 8 sec and we have a sensor that let's us know if we are too close and I use all of this space). I also hit 65 (which is where our companies governor is set) when not loaded again allowing plenty of space in case I have to slow down or stop. I will admit that I am really slow over freeway curves (if the speed limit says 45 I go down to 25 especially when loaded). The two major complaints is that I don't drive fast enough and I allow to much space between myself and the car or truck infront of me. Also they wont let me drive if they want to get somewhere by a specific time or off early (whether they have an appointment or not).
I realize that I am a rookie driver and that I don't have the skills that the more experienced drivers have but I am gaining each day. I don't want to push to were I am uncomfortable or unsafe. I certainly don't want to complain to the boss (at least not yet) one because I am woman and I don't want to make it a "woman thing" and two because I really don't want to create a conflict. But I do need the experience driving (especially on some of the scales with someone there for the first time). I am not talking about road scales I am talking about scales at plants where we deliver; some of them are very narrow and allow very little space to get on. The times they have let me drive onto the scales I have been dead on the center and did not hit the curb so it is not because I am not careful.
As for loading and unloading I am getting the hang of it. I can hook up and unload following the right sequence and procedures I just get a little confused un hooking though today was much better. ( I remember the sequence both times I unloaded).
Any suggestions on how I can ask for help in the areas I need it in? (I honestly don't care if I drive on the freeway I pretty much have the feeling for it). But it would be nice to drive in the city making the turns and driving into the plants (after I have visited once or twice).
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Understanding Company Training
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by xojewels, Aug 10, 2007.
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As a former driver trainer I would like to offer up some words of encouragement. First of all, don't ever let anyone else "bully" you into driving in any way that is not comfortable or safe to you. I mean this, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER let this happen. I don't care if the owner of the company is calling you on your cell phone or messaging on the qualcom, DON'T DRIVE BEYOND YOUR LIMITATIONS/CAPABILITIES!! This means whether it's your experience, the weather, or how tired you may or may not be...if you're not comfortable DON'T DO IT! I commend you for being this way so far, now just stick to your guns. Seems to me that your company just lacks the patience necessary to train someone properly. Did you do a lot of research before you chose this company? Regardless if you did or not, the only person suffering by this lack of patience is you. I used to tell my students all the time that I already knew what I was doing, they needed to get the experience, and I gave it to them. Everyone catches on to things at a different speed. In time, you will be just as fast as your trainer(s), and not only do you need to find comfort in that, so do they! You'll be surprised in a few months when that scale that seems so narrow now will seem like an eight lane super highway by then! However, no matter how good you get or think you've become, keep a level head and don't get over confident. I've made more than one mistake out here on the road because of over confidence, and I know I'm not the only driver who has.
I know I don't have to tell you that tanker hauling is an altogether different animal than pulling vans. I now pull a dry bulk tanker and even after several months (almost a year total), I'm still learning new things about the loading/unloading process. Once you get the basics down, then you'll pick up on all kinds of tricks of the trade that'll make things a lot easier. Remember though, NEVER sacrifice safety for speed! Haste makes waste, you know!
Keep your head up and mention to your trainer the things you really want help on. If he/she is at least halfway competent, he/she will listen and abide by your requests. Best of luck to you and keep us up to date on your progress!
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Hi Xo, well if your trainers get frustrated let it be their problem and just keep the mindset that you have, it seems to me like you are doing the right thing by taking it slow and easy and doing what you are comfortable with, if they give you too much grief just let them know that you are new and inexperienced and you are comfortable with your speeds and handling of the truck/trailer, maybe offer to buy them lunch (or kleenex) for taking longer than they think you should, but you would rather be safe and feel secure than be intimidated and unsafe, besides you want to protect them....its all about them (dont tell them that last part). Just to make you feel good, I started a new job this last week, hauling liquid sugar in a smooth bore tanker. This is all new to me as far as tankers go and I bet I might even go slower than you when loaded, my "trainer" also wishes that I would hurry up more (they are paid by the load) but its all a learning process. I have a few years under my belt, city driving, backing blah blah, but when we are loaded we go slow and thats just the way it is. I am also getting the hang of loading and unloading but to me, it seems real slow and that I should be learning the different pumps and blends and this paperwork and that paperwork faster but its a learning process and it will take however long it takes. Dont sweat the city driving too much, thats just one of them things you just learn over time, things are closer and tighter, take your turns wide and protect your rear. Backing up will just take practice and if you get it in after some pull ups then good, its when you cant get it in after some pull ups when you should worry. As far as asking for help well....just be diplomatic and ask
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sounds like ya doing alright. do they not realize they are in that truck with you, if you wreck, they do also. they also probably don't stand in line to pay the speeding tickets, at least they don't at my company. try to tuff it out, training can't last forever. i don't have the temperment to train either, so i don't. good luck.
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Sounds like you got on with a company that is not geared towards new drivers. You are doing the right thing just like the others have said drive according to how you feel not every one else. I would me more worried about you over driving your ability than what you are doing. An old phrase comes to mind that i learned a long time ago and i think it fits here.
"Never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly"
Keep up the good work hold your head high and remind them that none of us was born with a steering wheel in our hand and we all develop at our own pace so drive safe and remember the rules of the road and you will go far in this world. -
I didn't actually do a lot of research into the company prior to being hired. (I was hired then went to school and paid for it myself so I didn't have to sign a contract). However, I have since done research and they appear to be better than most companies that I have read about. The drivers that I have talked to at the company like the terminal manager, and other drivers. They seem to like the company and have reminded me to check my loads against my weekly reports to ensure I get paid. All in all it doesn't seem like such a bad company.
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I just finished trucking school and it about the only school in the country that teaches tanker driving (75% of my road driving was tanker loaded for maximum surge) and you are doing it right. Your job is to arrive at the shipper on time and load safely, drive on public roads safely, arrive at the reciever and unload safely. Notice the word SAFELY. One of the main reasons school taught tankers heavily is because of all of all the tankers on the road around here and every once in awhile one is put on its side going around a curve, almost always by an "experienced" driver. You can probably go a bit faster around curves but not by much. Better too slow than too fast. Its your job and your responsibility to do it safely. So tell your supertrucker cohorts to blow it out their ### when they try to hurry you.
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Okay here is an update. Today was day 13. I have driven about 1000 miles total; I know it doesn't seem like much but 5 of the days were under 30 miles total and that is with 4 loads picked up and delivered each day. I have now driven on the city scale 4 times and the last time I was a bit more comfortable. I seem to be handling the product (unloading) okay and I didn't feel like I was going to faint from heat stroke the last time I climbed on top to open the lid.
I left this am at 4 and returned just after 11. I drove a total of 298 miles delivering my load safely. My trainner told me today that he was pleased with the way I was learning, I was moving faster, driving faster and more relaxed and that if things continue to go this way I should be released by the end of next week. To be honest I am thinking it is a little soon and I don't know if it is because I am a wee bit nervous about being solo or if I still feel the need for training.
As for the surge so far the front to back surge is not nearly as bad as I thought it would be and I do not want to find out about the side to side surge so I will make sure I take the curves slow and steady.
Xo
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