United Express Lines DOT# 02896069 Des Plaines, IL

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  1. RubberDuckie

    RubberDuckie Light Load Member

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    How is 1099 fraud if it's allowed by the IRS??? It's a LEGAL tax status that simply requires you to file your taxes in a particular way. You're assuming I don't pay my taxes because....????

    You know what they say about ASSumptions and all that, right???

    You must be one of these folks that knocks the president for using LEGAL tax loopholes that anyone else can use. I mean, I guess I'm sorry for using a tax status that allows me to use tax code to not give Master Daddy Government as much money as I can, like you do.

    That's a good boy.
     
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  3. RubberDuckie

    RubberDuckie Light Load Member

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    Yes, refuse to haul it and be fired and kicked off of the truck hundreds of miles away from home. It's absolutely that simple of a choice for the average working man with a family to feed. Then they'll come here and report it and guys will still find a way to pin it on the driver. "Well driver, you should've done this and whatever and yeah, it ain't the company's fault".

    Hey, it's entertaining at least.
     
  4. RubberDuckie

    RubberDuckie Light Load Member

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    So I should discriminate against Eastern Europeans? Or just white owned companies in General? Let me know how this works. Because I wasn't aware that this forum WASN'T full of posts from drivers at W-2 megas complaining about the SAME sort of things. I sure see them often. In fact MOST of the posts in this forum section are pertaining to W-2 megas. Then you have the megas constantly being sued for millions for cheating drivers and OOs.

    Then you've got W-2s that shut down overnight leaving dozens if not hundreds drivers stranded on the road with no fuel and no pay and no money for an attorney. Tell me that doesn't happen??

    So yeah, no, the notion that simply avoiding 1099 chicago companies will stop any wage issues is quantifiably, unequivocally stupid.
     
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  5. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The IRS has not said that paying employees on a 1099 is legal, In fact they actively go after these companies. If a company determines the hour or schedule of a driver then he is a W@ employees. If a driver works at the direction of the company, as in forced dispatch over booking his own freight then he is an employee and should be paid on a W2. The IRS has a test to determine whether a person is an employee or a true independent contractor. The more control a company exercises over how, when, where, and by whom work is performed, the more likely the workers are employees, not independent contractors.
     
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  6. bryan21384

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    OP, you're getting too upset. Many of us have gone the 1099 route. I did it for several years while trying to rehab my career. There is nothing wrong with making that choice, as we all gotta do what is necessary to provide, even as it may be unethical at times. When you go to one of those companies in Chicago, you'll know within minutes that they are some crooks. They go by there own rules. I know, I've been there. Yes you'll pay that escrow and you will never see that money back. You cut your losses and move on. Those types of companies, you use them to rehab your career, to give yourself some time to let violations fall off, etc. Once that had occurred, get out. You did right to get out. Now you're going to get backlash on here, as the members respect this industry. You just have to admit to yourself that you chose a bad company, and now you can go somewhere else if your record is good. Some people will be critical as they've never had to go that route, ignore em. Are you going to work somewhere else?
     
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  8. RubberDuckie

    RubberDuckie Light Load Member

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    Yes, they go after companies that ABUSE this tax status. But 1099 is bottom line a legally allowed tax status so long as the criteria for being considered so are being met, as you even later explained in your comment. So how then is a working man that works at one of these companies (and filled out a W-9 tax form with these companies btw. Also had direct deposit into a bank...) automatically accused of tax fraud? And since when don't W-2 folks commit tax fraud all the time by doing things like claiming other folks kids on their taxes?

    Folks can get on the high horse and dump on me for a seatbelt ticket but outright calling drivers cheats for no reason isn't cool.

    I didn't attack anyone, I just came to report my experience with a company. Some folks seem to have this need to go to every post and drill the driver while always giving the companies the benefit of a doubt. Bottom line is I got out here and did honest work and my pay wasn't received. Salute to all of the Super Truckers out there that remember to follow EVERY rule, but yeah I forgot to have paper logs on the truck and didnt put my seatbelt on after fueling at the Loves before hitting that scale. Unless previously agreed to, That is not a reason to steal a man's paycheck. Period.


    And again W2 Megas based thousands of miles from Chicago run by American citizens are getting sued (and settling) for millions constantly for cheating drivers and Owner Ops out of money. The myth that simply avoiding 1099s will guarantee you don't deal with wage theft is again, quantifiably and unequivocally false.


    Fun and somewhat informative convo though, thanks.
     
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  9. RubberDuckie

    RubberDuckie Light Load Member

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    Not angry at all sir, it's just a forum. Thanks.
     
  10. Dennixx

    Dennixx Road Train Member

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    Have you tried your luck w another Chicago area based 1099 outfit yet?
    Let us know how it goes if you have.
     
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  11. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    So where you looking at going to next?
     
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