UPS Freight Basic Questions for 2019

Discussion in 'LTL and Local Delivery Trucking Forum' started by Northeasterner, Jul 2, 2019.

  1. Northeasterner

    Northeasterner Light Load Member

    Apr 1, 2018
    Not directly answered in Russian Rabbit's diary, and it's been half a decade since he was a newbie there so... looking for updates on the bottom-of-the-totem pole experience.

    I live in New England, going to an interview for City Driver soon. Want to be armed with information before going so I can focus on more terminal-specific & less general stuff @ the interview.

    1. The 2018-2023 Agreement seems to imply after 45 days your pay gets bumped up to 18 bucks an hour. Is this accurate?

    2. How many hours could one expect to get per week? Seriously. Do they avoid OT like the plague? Or is an extra 2 hours a day ie 50hr/week or an extra 3 ie 55hr/week more accurate?

    3. They don't wanna run you over 11/hr a day? So 55hr/week is the max hours? Essentially 67.5hr/week due to OT after 40?

    4. How many stops a day does one generally make in this region as a city driver?

    Asked at the tail end of a loooong other thread, figured I'll get more responses by starting a new thread.
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  2. Russian Rabbit

    Russian Rabbit Road Train Member

    Jan 3, 2016
    It's actually only been 4.8 years since i started.

    Will discuss in greater detail when there is more time----like on the 4th.
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  3. truckermkh

    truckermkh Bobtail Member

    Jan 18, 2018
    ^^ looking forward to that. Being a city driver for any good ltl company is about the only driving job I’m interested in at this point lol m-f schedule and decent pay and benefits. I’m over working 12-14 hours a day for no over time pay and everything else that comes along with most cdl jobs
  4. Northeasterner

    Northeasterner Light Load Member

    Apr 1, 2018
    Thank you, I really do appreciate it!

    Looking @ that master agreement that runs until 2023... R&L wants me, they pay more for the first 2 or 3 years then UPS pulls ahead by about 12%. But that's just raw wages based on 50 hours a week, not taking into account insurance costs, union dues, etc.

    We'll learn more tomorrow!
  5. Russian Rabbit

    Russian Rabbit Road Train Member

    Jan 3, 2016
    1) This appears accurate per Article 26,section (d).
    i like to post everything, but i don't want to post this because i figure if you get hired, then you'll get a copy of it and, otherwise, i would like to keep it confidential. i hope you'll understand.

    2) This is SO terminal dependent; i get the impression that if you're at the lower end of the wage progression, then they would more likely want to use you for longer days----less to pay out. UPSF is a numbers company first and foremost. NOT a freight company. Keep this in mind. This doesn't mean the job is bad. Quite the contrary. But keep it in mind.

    i would have made more my first year, but i had to take off for a while for family reasons.

    i have seen first yearers make at least 50K and more.

    If you want to list the terminal here, fine. If you're more comfortable PM'ing, that is fine too.

    3) Again terminal/seasonal/timing dependent.
    We have some terminals where freight is spilling out onto the street. i am presently running my tail off.

    4) i want to say presently, generally, 8 to 13, plus 2,3,4,5, pickups so could be 18 total for the day. This again, is terminal dependent.

    But it's not the number of stops per day that is the concern. It is WHEN do you start, how much time you have to MAKE the stops, and what kind of deliveries are you making----is it mostly dockstops, or will there be lots of jerking around waiting for someone to bring a forklift around etc. that is the concern.

    18 stops per day is ok when you start early and have mostly dockstops AND where you deliver has a lot to do with it---some areas do things the right way, some don't give a plop. More specifically, some people actually WANT their deliveries and will receive it promptly. Others don't give a toss.

    My handle "Russian Rabbit," is taken from the term "Rushing Rabbit." And your butt WILL be rushing. Just remember that.


    If you can't produce numbers, then you are worthless as a human being and you should just die. Seriously.

    This does not mean the job is bad. i think quite the opposite. But just keep it in mind.
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  6. Hammer71

    Hammer71 Light Load Member

    May 21, 2012
    Montgomery NY
    Start with the city then go to the road board when there is an opening. And as R/R said depends on terminal.
  7. speedyk

    speedyk Road Train Member

    Apr 8, 2015
    Do you lose seniority when you go road from city?
  8. Russian Rabbit

    Russian Rabbit Road Train Member

    Jan 3, 2016
    Depends on terminal (union local).
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  9. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

    Sep 19, 2005
    Baltimore, MD
    FedWrex works like that, but we don’t.

    UPSF must have some fast trucks because I had one of theirs walk away from me on 81 in VA earlier today.
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  10. McUzi

    McUzi Medium Load Member

    Jan 14, 2018
    I agree, feeder driver screwed past me while I was doing 65 on level road the other day. Must have been late or paid by the mileage, they are usually the ones doing the speed limit or less at all times.
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