US DOT Markings

Bikerdave · Mar 28, 2013

I am leasing a Penske truck. Penske has their own DOT# on the door. I have my own. Am I correct in thinking that the Penske DOT# should be Blacked out, or do I operate with both?

Allow Me. · Mar 28, 2013

You should have your own ID (which includes your name, numbers etc) on the truck. In essence, your info supercedes Penskes, since you're renting their vehicle.

Bikerdave · Mar 28, 2013

Thanks for the quick reply

CondoCruiser · Mar 28, 2013

I'll just post 390.21

d) of this section, and each unit of intermodal equipment interchanged or offered for interchange to a motor carrier by an intermodal equipment provider subject to subchapter B of this chapter must be marked as specified in paragraph (g) of this section.

(b) Nature of marking. The marking must display the following information:
(1) The legal name or a single trade name of the motor carrier operating the self-propelled CMV, as listed on the motor carrier identification report (Form MCS-150) and submitted in accordance with §390.19.
(2) The identification number issued by FMCSA to the motor carrier or intermodal equipment provider, preceded by the letters "USDOT."
(3) If the name of any person other than the operating carrier appears on the CMV, the name of the operating carrier must be followed by the information required by paragraphs (b)(1), and (2) of this section, and be preceded by the words "operated by."
(4) Other identifying information may be displayed on the vehicle if it is not inconsistent with the information required by this paragraph

.(c) Size, shape, location, and color of marking. The marking must'
(1) Appear on both sides of the self-propelled CMV;
(2) Be in letters that contrast sharply in color with the background on which the letters are placed;
(3) Be readily legible, during daylight hours, from a distance of 50 feet (15.24 meters) while the CMV is stationary; and
(4) Be kept and maintained in a manner that retains the legibility required by paragraph (c)(3) of this section.(d) Construction and durability. The marking may be painted on the CMV or may consist of a removable device, if that device meets the identification and legibility requirements of paragraph (c) of this section, and such marking must be maintained as required by paragraph (c)(4) of this section.

(e) Rented CMVs. A motor carrier operating a self-propelled CMV under a rental agreement having a term not in excess of 30 calendar days meets the requirements of this section if:
(1) The CMV is marked in accordance with the provisions of paragraphs (b) through (d) of this section; or
(2) The CMV is marked as set forth in paragraph (e)(2)(i) through (iv) of this section:
(i) The legal name or a single trade name of the lessor is displayed in accordance with paragraphs (c) and (d) of this section.
(ii) The lessor's identification number preceded by the letters "USDOT" is displayed in accordance with paragraphs (c) and (d) of this section; and
(iii) The rental agreement entered into by the lessor and the renting motor carrier conspicuously contains the following information:
(A) The name and complete physical address of the principal place of business of the renting motor carrier;
(B) The identification number issued the renting motor carrier by the FMCSA, preceded by the letters "USDOT," if the motor carrier has been issued such a number. In lieu of the identification number required in this paragraph, the following may be shown in the rental agreement:
(1) Information which indicates whether the motor carrier is engaged in "interstate" or "intrastate" commerce; and
(2) Information which indicates whether the renting motor carrier is transporting hazardous materials in the rented CMV;
(C) The sentence: "This lessor cooperates with all Federal, State, and local law enforcement officials nationwide to provide the identity of customers who operate this rental CMV"; and
(iv) The rental agreement entered into by the lessor and the renting motor carrier is carried on the rental CMV during the full term of the rental agreement. See the leasing regulations at 49 CFR 376 for information that should be included in all leasing documents.
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I wouldn't think Penske would be considered a carrier. And since you are not renting then just cover it up.

I worked for a company that leased from Ryder. We just had our company info on it.

Tonythetruckerdude · Mar 28, 2013

Lots of companies have long term leases with Penske, and Ryder..The one I retired from always used one or the other. Our company name was all you could really see , except for the small Ryder, or Penske id. number on the unit.

ITS62 · Mar 28, 2013

We rent Penskes all the time, sometimes for a few months at a time. If you are renting or leasing the truck for over 30 days per the date of the rental agreement or contract, you have to have "operated by: Your Full Legal DOT Name and Your DOT #". It can but does not have to cover their DOT #. We have been ticketed for this more than once. I do not cover their DOT # since it is that # that is tied to the truck IRP and in state registration for MN. KY and NY.

If you have a dedicated truck on a long term lease, it should be all fully registered under your name and DOT #.

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